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Re: Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take to cancel it

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Post by ntp85 »

neop1x wrote: post #806
neop1x wrote: post #451

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Interesting. I cancelled Netflix account 7 months ago and haven't used it since. A few days ago I received "Action needed: Reset your password" due to allegedly "suspicious sign-in". After changing the password and looking into the Recent activity, I couldn't see any suspicious recent login there. So I contacted the support and they said cancelled accounts are deleted after 10 months since cancellation. So now, with…

UPDATE: I've tried to log in again today with the password I reset yesterday and it no longer worked! xD So I've tried "reset password" again now and no reset password email is coming (I have checked Junk folder and even Exim SMTP logs - I can see the email from 17th there from Amazon SES but none from today). Apparently someone from Netflix read my comments here and deactivated the account completely. :P Thanks! Sor…

I think the reasoning behind keeping those cancelled accounts for such a long time is to keep the account's watchlist and/or recently played items - I'm not sure about the latter, though.

Either way, I agree with you that this is not right.

Re: Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take to cancel it

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Post by nicbou »

arp242 wrote: post #687
hijp wrote: post #495

There should be a law that you can cancel via the same method that you signed up. For example you can sign up for recurring paid channels on the Amazon app on Roku, but have to log in on the computer to cancel. What happens is my 80-year old parents try a week of HBO, Starz, Showtime, Britbox etc. Then can't figure out where they actually signed up. Was it under roku, under amazon, under a new app? What credentials d…

In the Netherlands at least this is actually the law. May even be EU law – not sure. Of course, the law is only as good as it's enforced. A few years ago I wanted to cancel a mobile phone subscription and the cancellation procedure said I had to send a letter. Like, an actual letter. lol? I just sent an email quoting the law, and since I didn't get a reply I stopped payments. Never heard from it. I sent a notificatio…

It's not EU law. Germany still relies heavily on cancellation in writing.

Re: Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take to cancel it

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Post by goatinaboat »

dahart wrote: post #820
goatinaboat wrote: post #793

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If you live in the EU, you might need to request account deletion, I think GDPR doesn't require that data is deleted GDPR also requires you to be able to cancel by the same way you signed up, so any company that doesn’t let you cancel online is in flagrant violation.

I assume you're referring to the NYT there, not Netflix? (It doesn't matter that much, because the situation is similar either way.) NYT is a US company serving a US locale by it's very name. GDPR doesn't even automatically apply to European NYT subscribers, unless the NYT advertises directly to Europeans, or does EU business with EU offices*. The GDPR law is clear about this point, it is a protection for EU citizens…

GDPR doesn't even automatically apply to European NYT subscribers, unless the NYT advertises directly to Europeans

It definitely does have UK specific ads, I’ve seen them, and GDPR is grandfathered into UK law.

I cancelled mine by cancelling the PayPal, there was no other way to cancel without phoning them. There is no online cancellation even for those in GDPR jurisdictions.

Re: Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take to cancel it

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Post by eythian »

macNchz wrote: post #737
eythian wrote: post #500

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Curious, I cancelled mine yesterday because they messed up my billing and wouldn't/couldn't unsuspend it¹, so the CS person suggested to cancel and resubscribe. I did have to confirm about three times that this is what I wanted to do, but in no case was it hidden or not obvious. ¹ it was a bit of a mess, they first tried to bill an empty credit card, but only notified me after several attempts when prime was actually…

I cancelled it a couple of years ago so perhaps things have changed, but afaik I'm not alone in feeling it was intentionally designed to confuse...lots of scrolling, multiple buttons with slightly different wordings, confusing warnings about when exactly the benefits end. Just the fact that I–a software engineer and longtime Amazon customer–felt compelled to open a new tab and Google questions about the cancellation…

FWIW this was amazon.de, it could be the flow there is different.

Re: Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take to cancel it

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Post by chagrilama »

In terms of tonedeafness they only compete with Ted "Pleasure Cruz" Cruz...

How about WIX tonedeafness AND stupidity:

offer 1: get "this" and enjoy 10% off.

Next week: get same "this" for 25% off.

The next week: get the same "this" for 50% off.

How would you feel if you bought in week one? Then saw week 2 offer, and realize in week 3 you were just rickrolled by WIX? Tonedeaf idiots...

Re: Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take to cancel it

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Post by mancerayder »

LordAtlas wrote: post #658
tasubotadas wrote: post #442

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> People that read HN are absolutely the type that would consider paying for NYT (or at least the two cohorts have great overlap). ?? I automatically assume that articles that are written by NYT, NewYorker, and The Guardian are complete BS and should be ignored. 0 journalism found there. Wanna spend money somewhere? Spend it on The Atlantic or Bloomberg.

> I automatically assume that articles that are written by NYT, NewYorker, and The Guardian are complete BS and should be ignored. Can you please elaborate on why you feel that way?

The OP's claim is a little strong but in my case, it's a narrative and opinion pieces that melt in with the news. We used to have international and domestic news, and an Opinions section that had the narrative. Now, we have opinions mixed in all three, inflammatory headlines, and missing data (one-sidedness), with more extreme assertions in Opinions.

For a younger person, perhaps they wouldn't notice? I have been reading NYT and Guardian since the early 2000s, and canceled the NYT this summer when they failed to report really major events in NYC that didn't match narrative (looting and rioting that was directly observable for two days). I realized at that point we had a real problem.

The Guardian has always been more openly activist, and I have a lot of respect for their Snowden work. But Trump being in the front page for four years was a bit much.

I'm pretty happy with Reuters and to a lesser degree Bloomberg (whom I pay per month 7 times what I was paying for the NYT subscription).

Re: Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take to cancel it

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Post by kwinten »

chmod600 wrote: post #787
Fuzzwah wrote: post #516

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I'm an outsider to US politics (in that I'm Australian), but I'm really interested to know what widely held "left" views you think are "incorrect"? The topics I understand as being pushed by the left in the US just seem so centerist to me, based on the political landscape that I'm living in. Single payer health care, minimum wage increases, increases in social support nets... So many topics I'd love to hear the argum…

The US has four states with population comparable to Australia. It would be perfectly centrist for a couple states to enact the policies you mention, assuming they can work out the details and balance the books. When these policies turn into wild success stories, other states might follow. It probably makes sense to start with some small-medium sized, well-governed blue states first, like when MA implemented Romneyca…

That last argument sure sounds like an argument from feels rather than facts and logic, I thought the right hated that kind of rhetoric.

The obvious answer is of course that health care is a public service and should not be reliant on charitable organizations, which would be absolutely ridiculous. (Yes reproductive care is health care, arguments made from personal feelings or believes are not a worthy retort against medical scientific consensus)

Re: Before buying a NYT subscription, here's what it'll take to cancel it

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Post by DanBC »

Veen wrote: post #751
DanBC wrote: post #725

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Any of their coverage of trans issues. I haven't said the Guardian or NYT is better.

You’re not a fan of Debbie Hayton then? Although I can’t imagine what her motivations would be for spreading misinformation about trans issues. Perhaps she and other Spectator writers have views trans activists disagree with, but that’s not the same as misinformation.

Debbie Hayton spreads misinfo. She does so because she gets validation form other transphobes.

It's not "disagreement" -- they regularly publish easily checkable objectively false information.

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