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So long as we're talking about white supremacists and hacking, I remember when a "white supremacist" hacker weev was convicted and sentenced to 41 months in federal prison for reading a few thousand sequential ids from an AT&T webpage. He reported the vulnerability to AT&T and showed a limited example to a journalist. This seems far worse - so of course we can expect criminal prosecution of these "researchers"?
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Since it's WARC and is going to end up on archive.org (archive.org is going to host it, but a different org 'archive team' are the ones who downloaded it), twitter isn't going to stop it from being posted since it's just going to show up as a link to web.archive.org. Arguably this isn't 'hacked data' since it's stuff that was wget'd and no security measure circumvention took place.
Why can't I download these files from archive.org? All of the interesting files are marked as "not available for download"
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The person who did this calls themselves a hacker. It's just whoever wrote this article that decided to call them a "security researcher".
In other words, the media really is as liberal as is claimed by some? How does that change things? The article calls them security researchers. In the title ! Isn't that an example of something that HN is tacitly acknowledging to be true by leaving the title alone?
This sentence specifically:
> With this type of access, newly minted users were able to get behind the login box API used for content delivery. That allowed them to see which users had moderator rights and this in turn allowed them to reset passwords of existing users with simple “forgot password” function. Since Twilio no longer authenticated emails, hackers were able to access admin accounts with ease.
Compare to this comment[1] (linked from MeFi) posted this morning:
> Well, because of that access, it gave them access to the behind the login box API that is used to deliver content (...)
Subsequent posts also seem to indicate that post is incredibly inaccurate[2].
So it looks like someone mixed up "scraping a public API" with some breathless tale of hackers doing hacker things, and HN ate it up.
[1]https://m.alpha.facebook.com/groups/majordomo/permalink/1016...
[2]https://www.reddit.com/r/ParlerWatch/comments/kv0jo6/psa_the...
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I don’t know about “communities”, but there were definitely many people calling for violence at BLM protests and marches in 2020.
The difference being that BLM movement actually has many decades (centuries?) of concrete evidence of racial injustice and oppression compared to the baseless claims of voter fraud and a supposed stolen election.
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In the tweet text it says "all new users start out shadowbanned until enough of their post get approved for rightthink by their user moderators"
Hackernews starts you off shadowbanned too. It’s a way to ward off spammers and bots. I know because this account started off shadow banned for 1-2 weeks until I had made 5-10 posts. Edit: Why in earth is this getting downvoted so heavily? Every new account everyone I know ever made was shadow banned at first
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Everywhere I go, I feel like I have free speech by default. I suppose it's my privilege that I feel like that, but I digress. When free speech is explicitly advertised, it smells.
Yes, this, exactly. It's sad that "free speech" currently feels like a dog whistle for the alt right, but it's disingenuous to ignore the reality that social media sites and forums that have sprung up in the last few years explicitly advertising this have very much been going after an explicitly far right audience. The explicit promise is "we won't suppress your speech like those other platforms do," but Twitter, Fac…
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Agreed, the irony of /r/conservative complaining about censorship or their rights to free speech being restricted while making submitting posts and commenting "flaired users only" (AKA only the users who agree with us and think the same way) is completely lost on them...
Have you ever been to /r/politics? It's a groupthink circle jerk. The difference, of course, is that /r/conservative is explicitly defined as a conservative community while /r/politics implies they are some sort of neutral community which they most certainly are not. At any rate, finding a diverse community of ideological people coming together to discuss politics with intellectual fervor is rather difficult these da…
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You're silenced by moderators or you're silenced by users. I don't see much difference in the end.
Not being listened to is very different from being silenced.
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Agreed, the irony of /r/conservative complaining about censorship or their rights to free speech being restricted while making submitting posts and commenting "flaired users only" (AKA only the users who agree with us and think the same way) is completely lost on them...
Have you ever been to /r/politics? It's a groupthink circle jerk. The difference, of course, is that /r/conservative is explicitly defined as a conservative community while /r/politics implies they are some sort of neutral community which they most certainly are not. At any rate, finding a diverse community of ideological people coming together to discuss politics with intellectual fervor is rather difficult these da…
While I understand that Twilio is probably not at fault for the actual leak, I'm curious if they gave Parler some time to migrate/shift before cutting them off from their services. It's easy not to care since Parler is the "bad guy" here, but I do think that Internet infrastructure companies need to give a reasonable heads-up before pulling the rug under business customers.
This whole ordeal really sours Twilio in my mind. Whereas AWS can plausibly claim that they don't want to host illegal content, what can Twilio say for themselves here? From Twilios perspective, providing Twilio's core product to Parler isn't any different than serving them to other platforms. They have no responsibility or liability. The lack of moderation on Parler is irrelevant when Twilio isn't involved with movi…
AWS cutting them off probably made it even more urgent. Like the pr department likely wouldn't be happy with the company supporting parlor til the very end...