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Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by habosa »

Ok so let's say you actually want Apple to do this kind of security for you (I don't, but let's say).

Currently they do a synchronous check before you launch any binary.

Why don't they instead just log every binary signature and check them async on some regular schedule? Strict mode could be blocking the FIRST execution of a binary signature and after that you only recheck if that signature has been revoked on some regular interval.

There's absolutely no good reason why an app which I've run 100 times needs to phone home before running the 101st time.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by akudha »

pgt wrote: post #390

A compelling way to enact change at large corporates is to vocally communicate when and why you are forced back into a buying position as a customer. Apple VPs who are listening, especially Craig Federighi - here is an early warning for you. The HN crowd may seem fringe, but they are living in the future. I de-Googled my entire life over similar transgressions by Google and several of my friends are gradually going t…

Apple VPs who are listening, especially Craig Federighi - here is an early warning for you.

The point is, things like this should never happen in the first place.

They are probably checking how far they can go, before it affects their bottom line.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by _trampeltier »

p1necone wrote: post #58
modeless wrote: post #19

You've got to be kidding me. When Apple's servers are down, all Macs worldwide start freezing randomly? My XCode is hanging during builds, is this why? This code signing enforcement stuff has gone way too far. Heads should roll for this.

Wait what happens if you don't have an internet connection? Can Macs not be used offline any more, surely that's still a relatively common use case for a laptop even today in a lot of places?

With Android is the same. I have an App Firewall on my Android phone and since then the standard Android gallery app does not work really anymore. A lot of things break, for ex. when I_ like to send a file with Threema, I have to go offline, choose the file and then go online again. Otherwise the file dialoge does freeze. It's just standard these days. Also a lot of things break, if you are just on a network without internet connection. Welcome in 2020.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by ruph123 »

pgt wrote: post #390

A compelling way to enact change at large corporates is to vocally communicate when and why you are forced back into a buying position as a customer. Apple VPs who are listening, especially Craig Federighi - here is an early warning for you. The HN crowd may seem fringe, but they are living in the future. I de-Googled my entire life over similar transgressions by Google and several of my friends are gradually going t…

I bought the business cousin of the XPS 17, the Precision 5750. The screen-to-body ratio is amazing. And the 4k screen is beautiful, the build is attractive, thermals are good and the speakers are nice as well. (From an Apple perspective these are the things that others often get wrong)

It has some design flaws („hybrid power“) but what is really messed up is the QC: I have ProSupport and already had 4 technicians over and am currently awaiting my third full replacement.

Issues are all over the place: faulty trackpad, extreme coil whine, broken display, etc. Perfect device for me if they could figure out their QC. If the next one is bot perfect, I am getting a G14 which is the best performance/watt, performance/notebook volume and one of the best performing notebooks in general.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by jojobas »

antihero wrote: post #796
submeta wrote: post #2

Unbelievable. When I read the tweet (tried to post here as well), I suddenly realized why my Mac was unresponsive an hour ago. Here is another tweet that describes the problem in more detail: https://mobile.twitter.com/llanga/status/1326989724704268289 > I am currently unable to work because macOS sends hashes of every opened executable to some server of theirs and when `trustd` and `syspolicyd` are unable to do so,…

The server is called OSCP which suggests to me that if we look at Apple in the most positive light - they sign and certify binaries as safe. If an app gets later reported as malicious, they need to revoke the certificate that has been used to sign said binary. So when you open an app, how else are they going to check whether the certificate is still valid or whether it has been revoked? Can anyone confirm whether thi…

Here's a wild idea: don't block executables from running.

Or if you do, only do it for a set of known bad ones, as antivirus products do.

Do not put a cloud service (or anything for that matter) between the users and their ability to run what they want.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by uCantCauseUCant »

barumi wrote: post #441
redisman wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> macOS is my favorite OS, but Ain't that the truth with every OS. I use Windows for gaming, PopOS for work on my desktop and MacOS for work on my laptop. The amount of weird issues is about constant.

> The amount of weird issues is about constant. But linux is free both as in free beer and in free speech, windows required you to pay the Microsoft tax to use, and lastly macOS required you to pay a premium on hardware.

It comes with the cost of a comp science student debt and manhours to poured into.

It wouldn't be necessary if people standardized & automated the sharing of workflows and finding of problem solutions.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by pgt »

ls65536 wrote: post #564
pgt wrote: post #390

A compelling way to enact change at large corporates is to vocally communicate when and why you are forced back into a buying position as a customer. Apple VPs who are listening, especially Craig Federighi - here is an early warning for you. The HN crowd may seem fringe, but they are living in the future. I de-Googled my entire life over similar transgressions by Google and several of my friends are gradually going t…

> The HN crowd may seem fringe, but they are living in the future. The other thing that really can't be discounted here is that a lot of the HN crowd are likely the default go-to people in their circle of family and friends for this sort of stuff, and in many cases they may also have major purchasing influence and technical decision making power in their respective businesses. Turning off one of them may be inconsequ…

Don't underestimate the power of your choice at the frontier, even if it takes a while to reverberate through time.

I used to think it didn't matter what tools I chose as a lone developer making consumer tech products and DSP audio applications. But over time, I saw that consumers rely on frontier-makers for fast-moving tech choices more than you’d think, even if they lag a few years behind.

When enough people make a choice, a tipping point forms in the future. Paul Graham wrote about this in "The Return of the Mac", and I believe a tipping point is forming: http://www.paulgraham.com/mac.html

If Apple wants to ride on privacy, then it will fall on privacy.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by ksec »

pgt wrote: post #390

A compelling way to enact change at large corporates is to vocally communicate when and why you are forced back into a buying position as a customer. Apple VPs who are listening, especially Craig Federighi - here is an early warning for you. The HN crowd may seem fringe, but they are living in the future. I de-Googled my entire life over similar transgressions by Google and several of my friends are gradually going t…

And there are A LOT more than what is just happening here.

They have burnt a lot of good faith post Steve Jobs. But judging from current Apple management, they wont act until Sales numbers decline. As shown by the MacBook Pro Keyboard fiasco. And to make it worst, they seems to think most of these problem as PR and Marketing problem and dial up the marketing instead of actually fixing it.

( You can see that with Apple's marketing, especially with recent iPhone 12, with VPs explaining in podcast )

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by corobo »

tomxor wrote: post #613
auslegung wrote: post #164

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> macOS is my favorite OS, but the shit I put up with... Idk, the several Linux distros I’ve used recently, and Windows, have a much longer list of “shit _I_ put up with”

The thing you get with Linux is "more _predictable_ shit to deal with", not "less shit to deal with", no large capable desktop OS is perfect and never will be. Anxiety from what Apple's agenda will do to your computer next update? anxiety from if a 1hr windows update is awaiting you when you turn your pc on? ... Linux awaits.

I've been using Linux as my primary OS since 2008

Today my mouse and keyboard were acting as if they weren't plugged in. Just no power, no reason, no change. Reboot fixed it for now

The thing that's changed recently is that I had to update the kernel to support my audio interface.. which was also a pain in the tits

The only relevant search results are StackOverflow spam talking about a version 10 years old

Linux awaits

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