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Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Keyboard

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Re: Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Keyboard

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Until 2011, I had "T" series and "X" series IBM/Lenovo Thinkpads. I've had to replace a couple of keyboards. It was easy to order a new and to replace it in about 1/2 hour.

Apple could learn from this.

I use the 15" 2015 MacBook Pro entry level model. Thankfully, one can still purchase this model.

Re: Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Keyboard

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Stupid Apple - I blame Schiller. They won’t support 32Gb ram because it might decrease battery life and requires them to reengineer the logic board but they’re totally cool with a fragile ass keyboard GLUED to a battery! Really there’s no way to call this anything other than insanity. I remember the media used to talk about the ‘halo effect’ - well I’m someone who has Almost every MBP between 2002-2012 and every iPho…

Did you buy your previous MBPs because they are nice kit, or because of Mac OS X? Are you switching to a Dell, or switching to Windows or Linux?

If your work or personal use can so freely change Operating Systems, then, I guess I consider you lucky.

I can't really do my job from a Windows box without significant pain. I could probably use Linux, but it would add some additional frustration.

Re: Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Keyboard

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As an interesting note, it doesn't work with MS Office.

Well, that's one problem you wouldn't have on Linux I guess.

On Linux ^A on a terminal (and on Emacs) behaves as God intended it to, but on a GUI it's usually "select all". It's really awful (albeit it kind of compensate for that with the select+middle-click dance).

Re: Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Keyboard

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you are confusing coincidence with causation, there is no evidence that apples record sales numbers (which seem to be at an end anyhow) have much to do with making things thinner to the point of fragility.

It doesn't have to "do with it". It's enough that "it" didn't cause any backslash, and instead we've seen ever raised sales volumes...

so clearly being an asshole makes me steve jobs right, or at least it cant hurt! right?

Re: Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Keyboard

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The ergonomic/natural/arc keyboards are, by far, the best products Microsoft ever sold. I do love the Apple trackpads, however. There is no better way to work on a Mac. As for my Linuxing, I have a Unicomp "Battleship" (PC122 keyboard) that's loud as hell, but has the best feel since the beam spring keyboards God added to the IBM 3270's when it made them in the 6th day.

Trackball is way better than any trackpad for me. I have three Microsoft Ergonomic keyboards. Two of the Surface ones and one of their cheaper ones which is about $20 at a BestBuy.

The thing with the trackpad on Macs is the gesture thing. Swiping desktops, zooming out on all windows, the "3D" click... The fluid way it allows me to work is priceless.

Re: Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Keyboard

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I wish apple would just make a line of laptops aimed at professionals. They could give us back a real keyboard, give us back USB ports, give us back swappable batteries, and give us back SD card readers (although this could be microsd at this point). They could even call it "macbook professional" or something like that. /s There is just absolutely no reason for these changes. The lack of USB ports on this laptop is s…

> give us back USB ports, give us back swappable batteries, and give us back SD card readers also dvd, ethernet, hdmi, vga and floppy, yeah. sorry, i want neither of these in my laptop. i want it to be lightweight, small, solid and durable body without moving parts or too many holes. what you want is achievable with dock station.

Ethernet sure, but the rest of that stuff has been completely replaced.

This is what I mean: make a laptop for people who need stuff like SD card readers and USB, and make another for people who don't. The way I see the breakdown is the "pro" or "air" lines.

Re: Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Keyboard

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I am a huge fan of Apple's products and never understood the fuss when the new Pro Keyboard attracted bad press, reading it on my old, robust pre-2015 era Macbook. Until now. I got the new one at my job three months back. And, here I am, still struggling with and super annoyed with the missed keystrokes (the buttons are so thin/don't press properly), the almost non-existent 'Enter' keys (seriously, who messes with th…

I used to be an Apple fanboy when they were the only option in town for a usable UNIX laptop. Which, quite honestly, hasn't been the cause for a long time.

I love my Dell XPS Dev. Edition (9350). All stock intel hardware, everything works (except the track-pad touch detection, can be flaky sometimes) and Manjaro Linux absolutely flies on it.

The build quality of the laptop is outstanding. The only thing that I'm not in love with is the webcam placement, but not a deal-breaker.

It cost me $999 2 years ago and feels as snappy as my 2015 top-of-the-line Macbook Pro that I use at work.

I'm not saying it's better than the Apple/OS X combo in every way, but it's a great overall machine and Linux doesn't suck on laptops anymore. There's no need to put up with Apple selling you 2016 hardware at 2018 prices and an OS that isn't that special anymore.

Re: Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Keyboard

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post #321

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This sounds like the kind of applicant who would complain that fizzbuzz has no real world application. Despite the attitude in that article, there are real applications of cycle detection. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycle_detection#Applications

It sounds like the kind of applicant who understands the problem far better than the interviewer. So go on then: once you have detected it, what algorithm would you use to repair it? Wouldn’t you consider its existence to be a bug in the way the list was constructed?

It depends too much on the context to give a general answer what to do with it. It can easily not even be an "error," like in the first example on this link where you're simply testing the strength of a PRNG. Another would be if you're writing something to represent reals in decimal and you want to see where your number loops, like 1/7 = 0.(142857).

Examples where it's not desired, and what to do: Detecting infinite redirects in browsers and stopping the loop. Detecting thread deadlock and terminating the process. Detecting looping references in an Excel spreadsheet and showing #ERROR in the cells instead of letting the process hang forever.

Re: Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Keyboard

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I wish apple would just make a line of laptops aimed at professionals. They could give us back a real keyboard, give us back USB ports, give us back swappable batteries, and give us back SD card readers (although this could be microsd at this point). They could even call it "macbook professional" or something like that. /s There is just absolutely no reason for these changes. The lack of USB ports on this laptop is s…

A MicroSD reader would be fairly useless. Outside of phones, MicroSD isn't really used, and nobody uses MicroSD for transferring files. SD cards are still the standard format for cameras, which are the main use case for SD card slots.

It's used in micro controllers, drones, some cameras etc. the whole point of my post is that apple should make a line of laptops that caters to people like artists, photographers, engineers, etc. They used to, and it was called the MacBook Pro.

A perfect example of this: I was recently at EDC, a massive music festival in Nevada, and one of our lighting displays had its controller stop working. I had my laptop with me, though, so I installed the control software on it. The comical part was that I had to plug I first a dongle to get USB, and then ANOTHER dongle to get Ethernet (controllers like this talk over artnet).

It was just really annoying. It felt like I was using a fashion device for work.

Re: Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Keyboard

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It's more like Steve Jobs was such an uncompromising asshole that he would rather throw a substandard product in the garbage than put out something he considered lesser. He didn't have vision, nothing he "made" was revolutionary at all, and he didn't make anything after the NeXT. Steve Jobs was amazing at two things: getting in on the ground floor (the iphone came out so quickly after the first all touch screen smart…

I had a full touch screen, color, icon grid of 3rd party apps, internet enabled, smart phone in 2001. Samsung SPH-i300 I had multiple web browsers, email, irc client, telnet and ssh clients, and an open marketplace of thousands of 3rd party apps for every oddball purpose, like I had a resistor color decoder, netmask calculator, etc. 2001. iphone came out in 2007, and had no 3rd party apps.

I also was a "power user" with some Nokia/Symbian bullshit that had "thousands of apps" and it was absolute garbage compared to my first iPhone. For a normal person.

Let's stop romanticizing the cell phone market pre-Apple/Android - there's a reason the rest of them folded and effectively died or went into obscurity within a few years.

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