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What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Re: What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Post by triplesec »

dos1 wrote: post #527
nollidge wrote: post #523

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Here's David Cramer's notpology: http://justcramer.com/2013/01/24/being-wrong-on-the-internet...

Wow, David Cramer is a total asshole! That Steve Klabnik guy is also an asshole. The only one who doesn't appear to a complete dick is Corey Haines, whose apology was better. Not great, but better. Here's the thing - if you ever even consider saying things like this to someone on the internet, you're an asshole. It's not a one time accidental thing. Nope, it's in your personality. I hope I never meet either of these…

cramer's apology does imply that he didn't apologise properly the first time, and it was his lack of communication that did it. of course that could just be damage limitation

Re: What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Post by triplesec »

kamaal wrote: post #767
pc86 wrote: post #559

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> Code is never personal. Whatever I say about your code has nothing to do with you. I've heard this repeated ad nauseum (not just in this thread) and I think it's total crap. You cannot tell me that if you spend dozens of hours writing something then someone comes along and goes line by line telling you how what you wrote is an abomination that you're not going to have an emotional response. If that's the case it ha…

One of the reason why I keep my mouth shut in code reviews unless something is very critical is precisely this reason. One of the easiest ways to ruin your relationship with your colleagues, or any one for that matter is to comment on their work. Heck developers are still fine, try talking to a doctor about some other doctor's work, even if all you utter is a minor work of praise for the other guy you will receive no…

humans suck. especially when they pretend to themselves that they are rational

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

triplesec wrote: post #812
kamaal wrote: post #767

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One of the reason why I keep my mouth shut in code reviews unless something is very critical is precisely this reason. One of the easiest ways to ruin your relationship with your colleagues, or any one for that matter is to comment on their work. Heck developers are still fine, try talking to a doctor about some other doctor's work, even if all you utter is a minor work of praise for the other guy you will receive no…

humans suck. especially when they pretend to themselves that they are rational

Apparently the part of the brain that decides what we want activates before the logical part; thus we use our powerful brains mostly to rationalize what we already feel is the right answer.

Re: What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Post by lxt »

freework wrote: post #736
lxt wrote: post #530

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"Then I see these people’s follower count, and I sob harder. I can’t help but think of potential future employers that are no longer potential." Speaking as a hiring manager, if I see people behaving like assholes on Twitter or mailing lists, those people go on my do-not-hire list. Yes, we are all assholes from time to time, but for some people it's a pattern of behavior. Those are not people you want to work with, n…

A lot of very talented and successful people are successful. Michael Jordan, Linus Torvalds, and Albert Einstein come to mind. If Linus Torvalds applied to work at your company, would you turn him away?

If everybody who interviewed a candidate thought they were a raging asshole, then yes, I would turn them away. There are enough really smart people to hire who are not assholes. I cannot speak as to Linus, because a) I haven't met him or interacted with him and b) I don't think it's appropriate to comment on a named individual.

As an interesting point, I learned this lesson in who not to hire from Michael Schroepfer, who is now VP of Engineering at Facebook.

Re: What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Post by lilsunnybee »

The criticism is so stupid too. Just because there's another tool out there already that can accomplish the same thing, does that mean no programmer should try to do the same thing again ever? How else do people learn?

And if she wants some of her work online to show potential employers or just to share, whats wrong with that? People should just mind their own business, and not be assholes.

If you don't like an open source project, make the same thing yourself, and make a post about how it improves on the older one. Don't tear someone down for not being as "smart" as you.

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Post by Evbn »

SimHacker wrote: post #506
anu_gupta wrote: post #501

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Twitter isn't coming up to anyone, twisting their arm and telling them to be a dick. Lots of people manage to use Twitter without coming across like assholes. If one feels that 140 characters isn't sufficient to correctly represent one's nuanced thoughts, then don't tweet.

And that's why I don't tweet!

And yet you expressed your idea in under 140 characters.

Re: What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Post by Evbn »

fatjokes wrote: post #521
cachvico wrote: post #370

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Here's the other apology, http://blog.steveklabnik.com/posts/2013-01-23-node Heather, don't take it personally - your code is fine! JavaScript, on the other hand, is a wounded warrior by now..

I wish he would replace his home page. I have to wait ~5 seconds to see the navigation for no reason other than the stupid terminal animation, and there's no obvious way of skipping it.

Please don't bully him like that. Have you learned nothing from this incident?

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Post by Evbn »

mrb wrote: post #446
doktrin wrote: post #362

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Why do you have such a strong objection to someone spending their own free time to simplify and / or mimic [insert unix tool functionality here]. It clearly serves a purpose and it's apparently useful. Most importantly, it exists , so there's no need to argue over how you think it should have been implemented. I'm sure if you were to release your own [script / wrapper], someone would find use for it, in the same mann…

I know it someone's right to do this, of course. I object because I come from an environment (software industry) where I have spent hundreds of hours undoing people's poor jobs where they wasted time and money reimplementing (incorrectly) library functions, system commands, etc. Because of this personal experience, I reacted the same way many reacted when seeing her script. So, I decided to explain to her and attempt…

You have better things to do than tell people to invent time machines to go back and not do things that are already done.

Re: What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Post by chris_wot »

moe wrote: post #170
diego wrote: post #126

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He does. This was pretty nasty. http://shutupmauro.com/

Do you really not see the difference between Linus Torvalds recalibrating a kernel contributor and three nobodies of questionable "conference-fame" picking on a random stranger?

I don't see the difference. Could you perhaps explain it?

Re: What It's Like To Be Ridiculed For Open Sourcing A Project

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Post by [deleted] »

chris_wot wrote: post #808
papsosouid wrote: post #792

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Why is you confusing yourself posted as a response to me? You can mutter random nonsense to yourself offline, I don't need to be involved.

I take it from your response that you are the few who cares enough to say "who cares"? You sound a bit sensitive...

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