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I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis
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#812People just need to calm down. We're scaring the shit out of ourselves for no reason. Just like, chill man. It's a tool; not the second coming.
Its a tool that is built by people who are incentivized to have you addicted to it.
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#813I think there's a reasonable argument that our entire society right now is under AI psychosis: The stock market keeps going up in the face of the indefinite closure of Hormuz. We're investing in datacenters at a scale that only makes sense if AI capabilities continue to advance to the point where they surpass most humans at most white collar tasks, if not reach superintelligence. And what are the possible outcomes? -…
My car drives itself. That's a $18T global market. Also $1T in data center investment makes sense when you realize that companies are racing to create virtual white collar workers. Google spends $9B a year on software engineers.
Market for who? Who is left working? If we can’t answer that question then we’re not prepared for what’s next.
Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis
#814I think there's a reasonable argument that our entire society right now is under AI psychosis: The stock market keeps going up in the face of the indefinite closure of Hormuz. We're investing in datacenters at a scale that only makes sense if AI capabilities continue to advance to the point where they surpass most humans at most white collar tasks, if not reach superintelligence. And what are the possible outcomes? -…
Are economists still trying to sell us the fairy tale that the market is rational?
The saying "the market is rational" simply means that assets are priced using all currently available information.
Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis
#815I do not believe 'AI psychosis' is an actual thing.
Do you believe that an AI can write persuasive text? Do you believe that an AI can be trained to elicit a specific user reaction?* Can we agree that AI companies are strongly incentivized to make money, and they can do so by making their systems addictive? Because AI psychosis can be a byproduct of that.
*Il outline how briefly: mutate the model 500 times, give 1/500 of your user base a mutated version of the model, and save the top 5 of these model, ranked by how often the users did something, over the course of a week. Repeat for a year, passing the top 1% of these models onto the next round. This is the simplest way to do this and I can think of better ways to do this. I don't even work on this sorta thing; its 100% obvious to the AI labs how to do this better
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#816Earlier quoted context omitted.
My car drives itself. That's a $18T global market. Also $1T in data center investment makes sense when you realize that companies are racing to create virtual white collar workers. Google spends $9B a year on software engineers.
Market for who? Who is left working? If we can’t answer that question then we’re not prepared for what’s next.
Huh?
Hundreds of billions are changing hands globally, every week, at the retail level alone.
And that happens literally every week, week after week.
That constitutes a massive market in any sense I can think of.
Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis
#817We built too many layers of abstraction, so much that even the people in power have forgotten where the fantasies are. The objective reality is behind so many curtains that we forgot what is powering the whole theatre play to begin with. Or maybe we know but became too far detached from it to care. If you are at the same the better and the player, then what’s left?
Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis
#818I do not believe 'AI psychosis' is an actual thing.
Do you believe that an AI can write persuasive text? Do you believe that an AI can be trained to elicit a specific user reaction?* Can we agree that AI companies are strongly incentivized to make money, and they can do so by making their systems addictive? Because AI psychosis can be a byproduct of that. *Il outline how briefly: mutate the model 500 times, give 1/500 of your user base a mutated version of the model,…
Yes, no. Yes, they want to make money. No, addiction is physical compulsion and nothing else. Despite the effort to redefine that term to cover all kinds of things, an app is not equal to heroin.
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#819The problem is that the only thing that has proved out so far is cyber security. Unfortunately cyber security improvements is not going to improve living standards, and it's just going to increase the cost of just doing business. There is no productivity boost, in fact it's the opposite.
What we need is automated research that leads to real results. This is possible, but it has yet to prove out. I am concerned that unless the AI companies focus entirely on this, it may be a while before we actually see true benefits from this.
What's worse, is there is an urgent and desperate need for automated research, as we have been seeing diminishing returns in human produced research for some time now: https://web.stanford.edu/~chadj/IdeaPF.pdf
Re: I believe there are entire companies right now under AI psychosis
#820Earlier quoted context omitted.
Market for who? Who is left working? If we can’t answer that question then we’re not prepared for what’s next.
Huh? Hundreds of billions are changing hands globally, every week, at the retail level alone. And that happens literally every week, week after week. That constitutes a massive market in any sense I can think of.
That won't happen any more if nobody has jobs. It's also completely irrelevant because how did you just connect the self driving car market to the entirety of retail sales?