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Re: Global warming has accelerated significantly

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Post by JackMorgan »

ai-x wrote: post #808
notarobot123 wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ironically, those still unconvinced of the human influence on climate change seem to be the sort that would trust the basement randos more than they would reputable scientists

There are various levels of perspectives - Climate Warming is a hoax - Climate Warming is happening, but not Man Made and part of larger cycles - Climate Warming is Man Made, but drastic De-growth strategies cause more harm. - Climate Warming is Man Made, don't need de-growth strategies because Technology will solve energy efficiency, clean energy growth and carbon capture and humans adapt along the way - Climate War…

You're missing: "Climate is warming, but this is a good thing because it means Jesus will come back sooner and I'll live in endless bliss and not have to go to work anymore, so I'm going to do my part by driving a huge truck and pretend like it's fake."

Re: Global warming has accelerated significantly

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Post by yongjik »

ai-x wrote: post #808
notarobot123 wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ironically, those still unconvinced of the human influence on climate change seem to be the sort that would trust the basement randos more than they would reputable scientists

There are various levels of perspectives - Climate Warming is a hoax - Climate Warming is happening, but not Man Made and part of larger cycles - Climate Warming is Man Made, but drastic De-growth strategies cause more harm. - Climate Warming is Man Made, don't need de-growth strategies because Technology will solve energy efficiency, clean energy growth and carbon capture and humans adapt along the way - Climate War…

Things must be bleak for climate deniers if they have to make an itemized list of strawman arguments to feel good about it.

Re: Global warming has accelerated significantly

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Post by Kiboneu »

Let’s not pretend anymore.

The uncomfortable truth is that that people in affluent countries don’t want to change their lifestyle. Affluent countries are less affected by global warming than countries responsible for a fraction of global emissions. All the emissions from manufacturing follow suit.

Re: Global warming has accelerated significantly

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Post by nomel »

longitudinal93 wrote: post #807
devwastaken wrote: post #785

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While it's true that China is currently responsible for the largest share of CO2 emissions at least their output is trending down: See https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-chinas-co2-emissions-ha...

And, it's important to understand why they're emitting some of that CO2: Western wallets demanding foreign produced goods, because Western society collectively, and enthusiastically, pushed manufacturing to China.

Re: Global warming has accelerated significantly

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

devin wrote: post #394
FrustratedMonky wrote: post #70

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Chill. People need to cope, and humor, sarcasm, etc.. are ok

It is neither of those things. Their post history is pretty clear.

I swear “check their post history” has got to be weakest form of ad hominem going. “I can deflect from answering difficult questions if I attack the messenger” is just so weak.

You are mistaken, probably not for the first time today.

Re: Global warming has accelerated significantly

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Post by truculent »

ai-x wrote: post #808
notarobot123 wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ironically, those still unconvinced of the human influence on climate change seem to be the sort that would trust the basement randos more than they would reputable scientists

There are various levels of perspectives - Climate Warming is a hoax - Climate Warming is happening, but not Man Made and part of larger cycles - Climate Warming is Man Made, but drastic De-growth strategies cause more harm. - Climate Warming is Man Made, don't need de-growth strategies because Technology will solve energy efficiency, clean energy growth and carbon capture and humans adapt along the way - Climate War…

Hypothetically speaking, if people in the last group were right, and that is the logical conclusion to be reached from careful evaluation of the evidence, wouldn’t the other positions indeed be ones of wilful denial of the state of the climate?

Re: Global warming has accelerated significantly

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Post by SV_BubbleTime »

jpadkins wrote: post #144
SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #11

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solar variability? Hard to model, as we don't understand it well enough to model it.

Seems like a reasonable answer compared to all the foot stomping above. Of course you are the downvoted one :)

Re: Global warming has accelerated significantly

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Post by [deleted] »

code4life wrote: post #779
bakies wrote: post #505

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Dismissing thousands of years of global temperature averages because you had a cold winter, very smart.

Im not dismissing anything. I’m just saying, when a measurement was taken in my region in 1925 it was warmer then than it was 100 years later in 2025.

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Re: Global warming has accelerated significantly

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Post by TacticalCoder »

There's a huge hypocrisy in wanting others to pollute less, yet still have a lifestyle that pollutes, but just less than those polluting the most.

I personally won't criticize people who take flights to go on vacation (I don't but I accept those who do). But I'll be pointing out the hypocrisy of those who take flights to go on vacation and yet want to micro-manage how others should live their lives so that they'd be "polluting less".

Recently some infographic made the round for it showed the act a human can take and the pollution it generates. The reason it circulated a lot is because the first item was highly controversial: "having a kid". And yet there's lots of truth in that.

For example my wife and I we got one kid and my wife is now in her forties and we won't have a second one. And I'll never ever take a single lesson about pollution from anyone who had two kids or more.

I'm the one who don't fly. I'm the one who only had one kid. And I'm not criticizing other people's lifestyle and choices. But if you open your mouth, I'll point out the hypocrite you are if you either fly or had two kids or more.

Re: Global warming has accelerated significantly

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Post by billywhizz »

sph wrote: post #756
nancyminusone wrote: post #458

Don't kid yourself - we closed this one with "Won't Fix" a while ago. "But what about ?" No. Full stop. We're not going to do it, and we're not even going to apologize for it either. All we can do now is prepare, not that I've seen a lot on this front either.

Worse, even if we’re going to do it, the next idiot in power is going to roll it back and declare to big fanfare and applause that coal is back. You can’t change the world with plans that last no longer than a presidential term.

the chinese can
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