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US economy unexpectedly sheds 92k jobs in February

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Re: US economy unexpectedly sheds 92k jobs in February

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I wonder if there is any evidence of the Iran war starting, in part, as a distraction from this. I recall reading somewhere that there is a long historical trend of countries and empires going to war - so much so that some of it can even be predictably modelled - once economic realities and discontent at home get too bad. War then acts as a form of national unity that helps keep the current elite in power.

Re: US economy unexpectedly sheds 92k jobs in February

#812

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You seem to have misunderstood me. I definitely do not support Trump.

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You can't extrapolate from Trump supporters having nothing in their life besides Trump, to thinking that people who don't support Trump have lives that are completely barren. It's all the things I have in my life that keep me from embracing destructionism - Trumpism appeals to the hopeless, and sooner or later you will realize he was merely a conman promising false hope in order to steal even more from you.

Re: US economy unexpectedly sheds 92k jobs in February

#813

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> [...]even if it doesn’t accurately represent our people I beg to differ, seeing that the US had free and fair elections - media bias aside.

Elections are not good sample of our collective values. The approval rating is quite low and is probably a better measure. But when it comes to elections, first, somehow “we” get 2 bad choices every time. This last time, I personally feel they were 2 incredibly terrible choices. Then the fumbling from the other side basically assured orange man’s victory. It was a disaster of an election (but sadly appropriate as it…

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Re: US economy unexpectedly sheds 92k jobs in February

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> [...]even if it doesn’t accurately represent our people I beg to differ, seeing that the US had free and fair elections - media bias aside.

Elections are not good sample of our collective values. The approval rating is quite low and is probably a better measure. But when it comes to elections, first, somehow “we” get 2 bad choices every time. This last time, I personally feel they were 2 incredibly terrible choices. Then the fumbling from the other side basically assured orange man’s victory. It was a disaster of an election (but sadly appropriate as it…

If "both sides" are equally bad, then both sides equally represent the people, no?

> I could probably go on but I feel the point has been made that election outcomes are not the proxy you think

The purpose of a system is what it does. There are not many grassroots efforts to change the many negatives you listed. Tacit approval - whether through nor voting or not fixing what is broken - does not lessen culpability. The outcome is still accurate representation on the aggregate.

If 4 housemates always have a dirty kitchen, it's a reflection on all of them. It may fall short of their ideals, or they can blame Bob for not doing dishes, not fixing a problem whose root they know is an indictment, not an excuse.

Re: US economy unexpectedly sheds 92k jobs in February

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Your "conspiracy theory" is that the US will declare war on Iran...?

Yes, US did not declare war against Iran yet. The president has to request a declaration of war from congress which will vote to authorize it or not. The conspiracy part is that after war is declared Trump will use this power to postpone elections and basically give himself a 3rd term.

> president has to request

... anything. Just does what he wishes without regards to legal limitations.

Calling bombing dozens of cities of a country anything but a war is being duplicitous.

Re: US economy unexpectedly sheds 92k jobs in February

#816

Since the end of WW2, and especially since the end of the Cold War, Democratic administrations have presided over significantly higher job growth than Republican administrations. https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.c...

This is misleading between Trump and Biden, 2020 saw huge employment cuts and Biden gets all of the positive growth of the recovery. Jobs #s actually grew quite considerably 2016-2019.

Yes if you ignore his failures, Trump is actually a very decent president.

Obama dealt with two pandemic-level threats: H1N1 2009 and Ebola 2014. He made it look easy.

Re: US economy unexpectedly sheds 92k jobs in February

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And there is such small thing as state constitution that explicitly forbids any income tax. Current government is using it as toilet paper, first by introducing capital gains tax, and now income tax. I see in another comments though that you argue in bad faith by dismissing opponent arguments as “small amount”, “talking points”. If you don’t have anything real to say, don’t bother to answer.

The state constitution does not forbid an income tax. We both know it is more nuanced than that. Don't accuse me of bad faith in the same comment that you present an inaccuracy in the form of simplification that suits your argument

There is nothing nuanced about that. You look into 2 places and see read it for yourself. Stop spreading lies.

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https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=1.90.100

RCWs > Title 1 > Chapter 1.90 > Section 1.90.100

RCW 1.90.100

Personal income tax prohibition.

Neither the state nor any county, city, or other local jurisdiction in the state of Washington may tax any individual person on any form of personal income. For the purposes of this chapter, "income" has the same meaning as "gross income" in 26 U.S.C. Sec. 61.

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https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim...

Gross income defined (a) General definition Except as otherwise provided in this subtitle, gross income means all income from whatever source derived, including (but not limited to) the following items: (1) Compensation for services, including fees, commissions, fringe benefits, and similar items; (2) Gross income derived from business; (3) Gains derived from dealings in property; (4) Interest; (5) Rents; (6) Royalties; (7) Dividends; (8) Annuities; (9) Income from life insurance and endowment contracts; (10) Pensions; (11) Income from discharge of indebtedness; (12) Distributive share of partnership gross income; (13) Income in respect of a decedent; and (14) Income from an interest in an estate or trust.

Re: US economy unexpectedly sheds 92k jobs in February

#818

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It’s not a big deal that you think this, but it isn’t nearly as important or poignant for the US economy as you’re wanting it to be.

My bad talking about employment on a thread about job cuts and giving background that a rounding error that doesn't matter is still 1.5 million US jobs. The US isn't 'too big to fail'. Death by a thousand cuts is still death. Ignoring each cut because they aren't important enough (only 1.5 million out of the 15 million travel workers) or poignant is dumb.

Nobody claimed the US was too big to fail. Now that I understand your goal, I can fully grasp your frustration.

I suggest not dying on this hill, it isn’t worth the emotional turmoil.

Re: US economy unexpectedly sheds 92k jobs in February

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It must have been the x-ray conveyer belt, not the carousel.

Pretty sure you don't go through an x-ray conveyor belt when you exit a plane. I think something was lost in the telling. I could see a kiosk worker saying this or similar.

On intl flights thru Houston I’ve had to exit, grab bags, carry them to security again, then proceed to the next leg of flight.

Re: US economy unexpectedly sheds 92k jobs in February

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> Cuba hasn't recently openly discussed plans to annex Canada Neither has the US. Trump specifically disavowed that every time he was asked (by the CBC). Meanwhile Cuba sent thousands of mercenaries to kill Ukrainians on behalf of Russia. > punish Canada economically Frankly, even as someone who opposes tariffs as uneconomic, given Ottawa's long-standing "constructive engagement" with the regime in Havana, even after…

You can't be serious. Did you miss all that talk of 51st state and "governor Trudeau" or "governor Gretzky?" > A reporter asked if he was "considering military force to annex and acquire Canada." > "No," replied Trump. "Economic force." https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/donald-trump-canada-51st-st... "The only thing that makes sense is for Canada to become our cherished Fifty First State. This would make all Tariffs,…

I meant to quote the entire clause, including, specifically, the

> by force

part, which is the part Trump repeatedly disavowed (as your own post demonstrates).

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