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Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

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Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#811

I'm biased, as I lead the Zulip project. But I think this is a reasonable place for me to post some thoughts. Given current events in the USA, I can't emphasize enough how worried one should be about the fact that a few companies like Discord, Google (Gmail), and Meta have databases with access to the private conversations of hundreds of millions of people with their closest friends and family members, linked up with…

Hi @tabbott I've been meaning to pass this feedback on for 5 months, and I hope it comes across in the spirit it's meant.

I tried Zulip (cloud offering) with some techie/designery friends, so we should have been right at home but... the desktop app on macOS and the web app was visually unappealing and clunky, and we ended up going back to a paid Slack plan.

I looked for docs on how to theme Zulip (so I could contribute), or for existing theme packs that would soften the transition but found neither.

tl;dr: The functionality was good (Love the threading!) but the UI feels like the 2000s came calling. Some UI polish would go a long way.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#813
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I have mentioned this before, but age verification can be solved by hash chains. They can prove age without compromising privacy. It is crazy that the solutions Discord goes for are IDs and selfies. It definitely gives the impression that there are shady ulterior motives. Hash chains are simple. If they were adopted, Discord would clearly be in bad faith taking the steps that they do now. If you search you will find…

this is just a think of the children attack

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#815
Nitro cancelled, all boosts for my servers cancelled, have recommended my communities all do the same. It'll be a lot less smooth but we can go back to IRC + Mumble.

Enshittification and profit-maxing strikes down yet another decent piece of software. Rest in piss.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#818

To be honest it kinda sounds like a benefit for my use-case. I don’t engage with adult content on there and use it for one server with friends. And this will reduce spam from random accounts. Will see if it remains usable without uploading my Id.

I think having kids asking if they can scan the face of their parents/older sibling will probably give rise to some good conversations.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#819

I'm biased, as I lead the Zulip project. But I think this is a reasonable place for me to post some thoughts. Given current events in the USA, I can't emphasize enough how worried one should be about the fact that a few companies like Discord, Google (Gmail), and Meta have databases with access to the private conversations of hundreds of millions of people with their closest friends and family members, linked up with…

Self hosting could be an option, but it does not help when a country require you to identify if a user is adult or not.

Doesn't self hosting usually exempt you? Most such regulations only apply to commercial entities above some minimum user count.

While I personally strongly favor federated solutions those are of significantly more concern in this regard.

Re: Discord will require a face scan or ID for full access next month

#820

I'm biased, as I lead the Zulip project. But I think this is a reasonable place for me to post some thoughts. Given current events in the USA, I can't emphasize enough how worried one should be about the fact that a few companies like Discord, Google (Gmail), and Meta have databases with access to the private conversations of hundreds of millions of people with their closest friends and family members, linked up with…

I'm really hoping for Zulip to succeed, which is why I'm even commenting. But it really needs people with UI/UX expertise. E.g. good user onboarding does not mean showing them a 2 minute video, as another comment on here mentioned.
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