> They have also summoned billionaire owner Elon Musk for questioning. Good luck with that...
I guess he could just never enter the EU ever again. Maybe he can buy Little St. James.
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Kiddie porn but only for the paying accounts!
Who's going to provide their payment details and then generate kiddie porn? This is a pretty pragmatic move by Musk. It's basically a honey trap, the likes of which authorities legitimately use to catch criminals.
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#813Earlier quoted context omitted.
There still needs to be sexual abuse depicted, no? Just naked kids should not be an issue, right?
Naked kid pictures intended for sexual gratification are illegal in most countries
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#814Earlier quoted context omitted.
This isn't the 90s. The right doesn't give a shit about weed.
The right didn't give a shit about weed in the 80's or the 90's depending entirely upon who had it. When Bernhard Hugo Goetz shot four teenagers on an NYC subway in the 80s, his PCP-laced marijuana use and stash back at his apartment came up in both sets of trials in the 80s and later in the 90s. It was ignored (although not the alleged drug use of the teenagers) as Goetz was dubbed The Subway Vigilante and became a…
edit: > Canty would later testify that the victims were en route to steal from video arcade machines in Manhattan
> Each of the four youths shot by Goetz was facing a trial or hearing on criminal charges at the time of the incident. Ten weeks prior to being shot, Cabey was arrested on charges that he held up three men with a shotgun in the Bronx, and he was released on $2,000 bail.[38] Cabey failed to appear at his next court date, resulting in an additional arrest warrant.
Sounds like predators to me.
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No other "AI" companies released tools that could do the same?
In fact, Gemini could bikinify any image just like Grok. Google added guardrails after all the backlash Grok received.
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#816Good one. No platform ever should allow CSAM content. And the fact that they didn’t even care and haven’t want to spend money for implementing guardrails or moderation is deeply concerning. This has imho nothing to do with model censorship, but everything with allowing that kind of content on a platform
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In which broken society do you live where this is true? I would say drawing sexually explicit pictures of real persons without their consent and keeping them in your drawer is neither illegal nor morally reprehensible in most of the world. I am with you on publishing these...
Not morally reprehensible? Do you tell your coworkers “hey, last night I sketched you nude, but it’s cool, it’s in my bedside drawer…”
What if I only thought about it? Still morally reprehensible? Or only if I tell others I think about them? Then you could argue it's sexual harassment.
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#818Earlier quoted context omitted.
>It has always been illegal and morally reprehensible to create, own, distribute or store sexually explicit material that represents a real person without their consent, regardless if they are underage or not. Arguably morally reprehensible but it has not always been illegal (and still isn't in many places) if you're talking about images of adults.
Did you miss the "without their consent" part?
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It has always been illegal and morally reprehensible to create, own, distribute or store sexually explicit material that represents a real person without their consent, regardless if they are underage or not. Grok is a platform that is enabling this en masse. If xAI can't bring in guardrails or limit who can access these capabilities, then they deserve what's coming to them.
>It has always been illegal and morally reprehensible to create, own, distribute or store sexually explicit material that represents a real person without their consent, regardless if they are underage or not. Arguably morally reprehensible but it has not always been illegal (and still isn't in many places) if you're talking about images of adults.
This comment chain isn't about a difference of opinion, but a difference in morality - there's no debating possible about morals I think.