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Post by Fischgericht »

joquarky wrote: post #675
jacquesm wrote: post #622

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You can pretty much lump all of the billionaire bootlickers in the same category. Almost none of them have any ethics, whilst of course proclaiming the opposite.

It's like the old Sim City game where you can cheat in unlimited funds. This causes you to get bored and suddenly the disaster menu starts to become interesting.

Thank you. You just blew my mind.

This might be the best (compressed) analogy / short-cut when trying to educate others about WTF is going on here.

I will totally steal and use that.

Again, thank you.

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Post by babypuncher »

scottyah wrote: post #674
babypuncher wrote: post #592

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These "single issue donors" are the most morally corrupt. I can understand someone who genuinely believes in the cause, even if that cause is disgusting. But this guy...this guy knows that the things happening are wrong, and he doesn't care as long as he gets what he wants from this administration. These people should be made social pariahs.

Do you condone all actions made by all people claiming to be part of your party? We're all told that we must pick the "lesser evil", and if you truly believe that one particular issue is more important than the rest, is it not your moral obligation to pursue that?

I think donating that amount of money to a political candidate is unethical no matter who that candidate is.

I reject the premise that whatever this guy wants from Trump is a moral good greater than the harm that is being wrought. It is almost certainly not about pushing the common good, but ensuring that his wealth continues to grow unabated by government interference.

I find this motivation especially despicable, because he has "donates $25m to political campaigns" level wealth already. He could quit Open AI today and live out an early retirement in unparalleled luxury. But that isn't enough for him. He has to keep pouring gasoline on the dumpster fire that is American politics, leaving the rest of us to suffer, because he doesn't think hundreds of millions of dollars is enough for one person.

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Post by southerntofu »

WarmWash wrote: post #777
southerntofu wrote: post #763

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> police will just shoot them if they happen to feel like it. Well that's exactly the problem. There's nothing stopping them: no accountability, no justice. Many cops just don't feel like randomly shooting people, and that's good. The problem is if they do, and even if they brag about it, little will be done. Take for example the latest Sainte-Soline repression scandal revealed a few months back by Mediapart [1] wher…

Being killed by police is different than being murdered by police. Police in the US kill somewhere around 1000 people a year. But of those, it's something like 5-10 that are murders. There is maybe 1 every few years where the cop is itching to shoot someone who is clearly compliant and not a threat. The 990 police killing videos that become available every year now are not particularly compelling, because its bad act…

The dynamic doesn't look very different here, at least from reading the news. I don't know about the US (though i suspect We don't have guns circulating freely around here (though some people have them such as for hunting). Many police murders take place in police custody (such as El Hacen Diarra just this month). According to the most comprehensive stats i could find [2], out of 489 deaths by police shootings (1977-2022), 275 victims were entirely unarmed.

[1] Not very scientific method: any case of police being assaulted and using "self-defense" is widely spread in the media, and those few cases per year don't account for the dozens of deaths every year.

[2] https://bastamag.net/webdocs/police/

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Post by hungryhobo »

ikrenji wrote: post #511
parthdesai wrote: post #472

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Does China go around the world invading countries in the name of freedom? > Content about the United States government rolling through protesters in armored vehicles, killing people in Venezuela with bombs, and threatening Greenland, straight to top of feed. None of this is propaganda, it's just facts.

I mean China is not exactly a poster child for a benevolent hegemon - tibet / taiwan / uyghurs to name a few

all 3 places you mentioned have been integrated into china longer than the us has been a country

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Post by throwaway173738 »

rluna828 wrote: post #676
jmyeet wrote: post #475

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What you're describing here (ironically) is unironically the basis for Western political thought. What I'm referring to here is idealism [1]. Whether it's European colonial powers or the US, the basis for foreign intervention is, quite simply, that we are the Good Guys. Why? Because we're the Good Guys. Even slavery was justified in Christianity by converting the heathen and saving their immortal souls, a fundamental…

This has been proven wrong again and again. My grandparents were subsistence farmers. They had much less material wealth than any working class American and the vast majority of unhoused Americans. Yet, I can assure you that back then they were much more satisfied with life than the vast majority of working class and unhoused americans today. Second point, no amount of material wealth can compensate for severe mental…

My great grandparents could buy enough land to feed themselves for the equivalent of a few months salary. And they could live in whatever size building they wanted on it. Some amount of agency is a requirement for happiness, and when you have it you can be satisfied living under a rock.

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Post by Fischgericht »

pessimizer wrote: post #237
embedding-shape wrote: post #61

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Which used to be seen as "Ew, China has their own version? Crazy censorship" but after some time it seems like the US is aiming for the very same thing. Classy.

> Which used to be seen as "Ew, China has their own version? Crazy censorship" It used to be marketed as that by "China evil" people. Western politicians have always seen this as an arms race. They claim infinite brutal censorship and suppression in China in order to claim that not having it here is a strategic disadvantage. Meanwhile, China's "social credit" is just like a US credit score, which in most countries is…

"The result, the child of the Oracle guy owns half the media"

I guess in 90ies version of polymarket nobody would have had that result on their bingo sheet. But, well, they probably also didn't have "something like polymarket could exist in the free world" on those bingo cards, either...

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Post by silisili »

js8 wrote: post #133

When I was 11, on 17th Nov 1989, in Czechoslovakia, my father was watching the evening news on our (black and white) TV, as usual. There was a protest and the state media was reporting on it. When the reporter said, "our camera broke down and we can only show black and white pictures", my father IMMEDIATELY jumped up and angrily said, "that's bs, you don't want to show how they [the protesting students] got beaten up…

The rise of AI is going to make this even worse. Think Running Man instead of 'technical difficulties.'

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Post by johnnyanmac »

WarmWash wrote: post #716
parthdesai wrote: post #491

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I think you're being sarcastic, but just in case you're not > Propaganda is the deliberate, systematic manipulation of information—including facts, half-truths, or lies—to influence public opinion, attitudes, and behaviors toward a specific cause, ideology, or agenda.

A large percentage of Americans are convinced that police will just shoot them if they happen to feel like it. Even including ICE in this statistic, you will never even meet someone who knows someone who was murdered by a cop. Police encounters that turn deadly, not even blatant murder, are on the order of 1 in 50,000. However, that stream of police murder videos are definitely real. Propaganda is often stoking tiny…

>Even including ICE in this statistic, you will never even meet someone who knows someone who was murdered by a cop. Police encounters that turn deadly, not even blatant murder, are on the order of 1 in 50,000.

That just shows that people's social circles aren't that wide. 1 in 50,000 is rare in your personal bubble. For a town of 1 million people, thats 20 people.

Sounds tiny, but if we were to line up 20 people and have them murdered by law enforcement, it'd pretty much end the careers of anyone in that chain of command. Because that's not a behavior you want to let spread and expand.

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