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Trump says Venezuela’s Maduro captured after strikes

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Re: Trump says Venezuela’s Maduro captured after strikes

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Post by colordrops »

Baader-Meinhof wrote: post #583

To steel-man and provide a more charitable interpretation of last night: 1. Maduro stole an election. He is not legitimately in power. Many other people in power, like the military and other political factions, opposed this and wants him removed. 2. These people quietly oust Maduro in the middle of the night. 3. With the tacit approval of these folks, the US arrests Maduro for previously indicted crimes. 4. The US bo…

You might have convinced me that steelmanning is a bullshit rhetorical device.

Re: Trump says Venezuela’s Maduro captured after strikes

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Post by nsingh2 »

GardenLetter27 wrote: post #176

Let freedom ring. Every Venezuelan I know is happy for the regime to fall. Let's hope Iran, Cuba, North Korea and Russia follow soon.

> Let freedom ring

What happens if the Venezuelan people decide they want their oil profits to stay in Venezuela rather than flowing into oil company coffers? Will they have the "freedom" to choose that?

Don't get me wrong, Maduro being toppled is a positive in isolation, but it's still wait-and-see regarding what he gets replaced with.

"We’re going to have our very large US oil companies, the biggest anywhere in the world, go in, spend billions of dollars, fix the badly broken infrastructure, the oil infrastructure, and start making money for the country and we are ready to stage a second and much larger attack if we need to do so" [1]

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/03/trump-venezu...

Re: Trump says Venezuela’s Maduro captured after strikes

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phtrivier wrote: post #422

If it's to get access to the oil reserve, it is bad news for the shale oil industry in the USA : maybe "drill baby drill" is not feasible any more, and the only way to maintain the level of GDP is to get the oil from somewhere else. Or it's just banking oil to prepare a war with China. Thank FSM some AI-first is going to create fusion any time soon to power the robots solving climate change.

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Post by xh-dude »

aqme28 wrote: post #115

A lot of talk about how the administration didn't even try to justify this, but I think that the administration actually believes they did justify it. They exist in some bubble completely un-tethered from reality. I don't know what that means for the future but it's terrifying.

All of the justification in this moment reads to me like: Trump is giving different segments of his coalition reasons to get off the fence and on his side. It’s something different for Rubio than for DoD than for the oil cronies. It’s not really about persuading anyone outside of Trump’s coalition.

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Post by Phelinofist »

Buttons840 wrote: post #801

Maduro is alive and charged with crimes in a US court. So, we will see evidence presented I guess. This is new. I'm surprised Maduro wasn't just killed, and wonder if he might somehow die in US custody. The US will have to make a case in court while the whole world watches. That will be embarrassing I expect. https://youtu.be/ijFOLv17RX4

This is immensely funny (actually it's not) that the US trials Maduro when they do not accept the ICC. I guess US law is the ultimate law.
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