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Tesla’s 4680 battery supply chain collapses as partner writes down deal by 99%

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Re: Tesla’s 4680 battery supply chain collapses as partner writes down deal by 99%

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Post by SR2Z »

redwall_hp wrote: post #723
SR2Z wrote: post #605

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It's not the weed that fried his brain, it's the ketamine. That moment where he smoked up on camera seems to coincide pretty well with him losing his mind, though.

People get ketamine treatments for depression all the time. It's not drugs, he's just a nasty person who's been good at manipulating people in the past. People have just finally caught on to the con, at least in part because he's terminally online. It's been obvious since the submarine incident.

I've used ketamine, it's not like you use it once and it destroys your mind.

Using it nightly for a few months though? The effect on your brain looks like CTE.

Re: Tesla’s 4680 battery supply chain collapses as partner writes down deal by 99%

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Post by TheAlchemist »

spullara wrote: post #806
TheAlchemist wrote: post #727

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One would be crazy to bet on that on Polymarket. They had a bet for Tesla Robotaxi rollout before end of 2025 and it resolved to YES. So it must be like your FSD - Tesla is apparently already operating a general public access autonomus Robotaxi, maybe even 50% of the US population like the CEO said.

so you were wrong and lost or what? they are operating a general public access autonomous robotaxi in sf, dunno what you are on about

In SF ? That would be illegal, as Tesla don't even have the permit to do that:

https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/vehicle-industry-services/auto...

They only can test with a driver for now. Can you take a ride in this Robotaxi and film it, so we can all see ?

I'm always very curious about why people argue some obvious lies like that about Tesla. Invested ? Paid shills ? Just Musk distortion field ?

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Post by spullara »

TheAlchemist wrote: post #812
spullara wrote: post #806

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so you were wrong and lost or what? they are operating a general public access autonomous robotaxi in sf, dunno what you are on about

In SF ? That would be illegal, as Tesla don't even have the permit to do that: https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/vehicle-industry-services/auto... They only can test with a driver for now. Can you take a ride in this Robotaxi and film it, so we can all see ? I'm always very curious about why people argue some obvious lies like that about Tesla. Invested ? Paid shills ? Just Musk distortion field ?

if the driver doesn't do anything what then? is it driving itself or not?

as someone that gets driven around by my car whenever it is on the road, i hate that people like you act like it doesn't exist.

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Post by TheAlchemist »

spullara wrote: post #813
TheAlchemist wrote: post #812

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In SF ? That would be illegal, as Tesla don't even have the permit to do that: https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/vehicle-industry-services/auto... They only can test with a driver for now. Can you take a ride in this Robotaxi and film it, so we can all see ? I'm always very curious about why people argue some obvious lies like that about Tesla. Invested ? Paid shills ? Just Musk distortion field ?

if the driver doesn't do anything what then? is it driving itself or not? as someone that gets driven around by my car whenever it is on the road, i hate that people like you act like it doesn't exist.

Nobody disputes that the car can drive itself 99% of the time. It can and it's a great system (well, opinions diverge, I mostly agree). But it's very far from a Robotaxi - for any reasonable person, Robotaxi means unsupervised rides, which Tesla is not currently doing at all. And they argue pretty strongly in court that any talk about unsupervised is just 'corporate puffery'.

This is similar to why one needs to keep an eye on todlers. 99% they are fine, but that 1% of time they will do something very dangerous.

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Post by throw10920 »

anthonybsd wrote: post #611
sidcool wrote: post #395

The picture of Tesla across internet is so polarizing. X and YouTube is full of Tesla is the future vibe. Electrek and HN is calling it a complete scam. I am sure it's in the middle, but I can't find a balanced opinion anywhere. But I have seen Electrek being too negative about Tesla always. And never reporting anything positive as such.

Elektrek was one of the biggest Tesla cheerleaders until 2023 or so. Founder promoting neonazi and fascist ideas kinda made them sour on the brand, can you blame them?

Exactly what "neonazi" and "fascist" ideas has he been promoting?

I mean, not that it matters. Yes, you can "blame them", because if you're writing articles based on how you feel about the subject and not the facts, you're not a journalist or a news-writer, you're a propagandist.

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Post by 56J8XhH7voFRwPR »

red75prime wrote: post #408
fencepost wrote: post #88

Doing a quick bit of searching based on the 4680 makes me think that there has been or will be a change from NMC811 to LFP chemistry in the 4680, including one article talking about changing to US and European-based in-house manufacturing and reducing dependence on China. I'm no fan of Tesla, but this looks like the collapse of the contract with the supplier for the battery chemistry they've moved away from, aka "no…

Yeah, it's typical of Elektrec to interpret anything Tesla-related in the worst light. I personally fact checked articles about "Autopilot disengages milliseconds before collision" and the one related to Benavides v. Tesla case. In the first case they jumped to conclusions. In the second case they "forgot" to mention any details that contradict their narrative: that there were two cases separated by years, that the p…

I havent seen an article on that site be remotely positive to tesla in a long time if ever. Its weird, the obsession with Tesla hating.

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Post by ajmurmann »

bilekas wrote: post #480
ajmurmann wrote: post #478

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Did he always have this problem? I don't recall this from the early Tesla days. I have the totally subjective impression that the predictions have been getting worse and worse.

The thing seems to be that he's made the same claims since the beginning and things are always being pushed out every year .. "fully self driving taxis in 2 years" He's the perfect salesman for giving investors hope, and delivers some things but promises everything. The hyperloop.. Colonizing mars by 2025 I think was one claim.. Good article here https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-lists/elon-musk... I'm hap…

That's a great summary by the rolling stone. I was thinking much earlier though around the time when Tesla was switching from the original Roadster to the first sedan and when SpaceX was really focused on landing its first rocket.

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Post by donkyrf »

hvb2 wrote: post #207
donkyrf wrote: post #199

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Which maker? Because that assertion is false for Porsche Audi VW BMW and MB. What’s left?

Audi Q4, and if the dealer doesn't know how their own cars work then that's the same to me. In an EV it's a necessity.

Audi Q4s can absolutely do this.

I'd wager a large sum that you were told about a capability in the app, you _wrongly_ thought this meant it could _only_ be done in the app, and then you decided to take a very, very dumb stand.

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Post by donkyrf »

hvb2 wrote: post #404
senordevnyc wrote: post #299

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So if one guy at one Audi dealership gives you the wrong info, then Tesla makes a better car than Audi? Makes sense.

If that's the actual salesman? And the reason for asking is that it's not clear how that works Yes...

I thought you were just a dumb Tesla dork making shit up, but the reality is so much more pathetic.

Wow.

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Post by onethought »

vel0city wrote: post #724
onethought wrote: post #703

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I’m not sure id call Chevy widely sold, yet. Their full year sales don’t even match a single quarter of Tesla.

I can go to any major metro area in the US and go buy a GM EV today. That's widely sold.

That’s “widely available” — no one is buying them, so not “widely sold”
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