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A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Think about a Reddit mod's incentives. They: - Don't get paid - Spend time having to do some really thankless work - Don't really have a regular work schedule So what kind of person is going to do it? Someone who is willing to do the work for no pay. For smaller subreddits and areas where the work of moderation isn't that heavy, you'll find passionate individuals. Mods that moderate more time consuming content or the…

There should be a public service campaign telling users something like "Even in the best case scenario, the moderators are weirdos. Most likely they're shills". People with careers, families, friends and hobbies are mostly not going to spend their limited free time being a digital janitor for an anonymous online community. People sitting alone in their apartment with nowhere to go and nothing to do and no one to spen…

I think it's a bit tougher than that. On top of what zahlman said, a lot of "casuals" don't really bring much value to a social media site. If you comment once a year you're not really offering much to the conversation. That's what makes this problem so tricky. The most motivated users are usually motivated by something more than intrinsic motivation. The least motivated users just aren't very good users of the platform. A better incentive structure would help incentivize the "moderately motivated" user.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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This is not my industry, no. Had the author reached out for comment they could publish my claims. More interested in a hit piece than the truth.

Do you deny that you work for the competitor? If you don't deny that, then it IS your industry.

They are absolutely competitors:

https://techcrunch.com/2021/04/08/software-engineer-training...

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Regardless of Michael's issues with Codesmith, I will say as someone who looked into bootcamps before, Codesmith is infamous for having people misrepresent their job experience to get swe jobs (even getting hired as seniors!). This is also why they used to have some of the highest job salary outcomes. I'm not going to link anything but this can be confirmed by just searching "Codesmith" in Linkedin and seeing how man…

Yeah Codesmith is trash and I am seriously wondering if this thread itself is being swarmed by their PR people.

or maybe you’re part of formation’s PR. The article lays out the reality.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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I don't know about this particular case, but, generally... bad actor subreddit moderators have been an occasional thing for well over a decade. And it's also been widely known for that long that Reddit is an influential venue in which to take over a corner -- for marketing or propaganda. What's an equal concern to me is how insufficiently resilient Reddit collectively appears to be, in face of this. A bad actor mod o…

Reddit employees are also moderators that also directly influence public opinion and encourage witch hunts. It’s a systemic Reddit-the-company issue. Google “Ethan Klein vs Reddit” if you want to go down a recent rabbit hole

Klein's case is about copyright (and a somewhat thin claim at that; it sure smells a lot like "I'm attempting to use copyright to quash criticism of me," and if the judge decides that's what's actually going on, he's going to lose his case). Unless I missed an update, he's suing Reddit to try and de-anonymize some people running the subreddit so that they can be properly the target of his copyright lawsuit.

Worth noting: he does not appear to have filed for defamation, which would be the thing he could complain if what they were saying was materially untrue.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Yeah Codesmith is trash and I am seriously wondering if this thread itself is being swarmed by their PR people.

or maybe you’re part of formation’s PR. The article lays out the reality.

Who are you? Your account is 13 hours old. Do you work with one of aggravated parties or are you a concerned bystander?

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Similar thing with the subreddit r/NYCapartments. Moderators are basically rental companies and agents, very convenient to do some lobbying, preventing price discussions etc.

It is crazy how some communities are being moderated by people with clear interests.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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post #333

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r/sandiego. The mods are political and territorial. I posted once about the suggestion to create a discord for the sub and they removed my post and DMed me this: > What experience do you have modding such channels and the reddit community? > Managing city subs are among the most difficult on the site... these are not single topic communities and discord is not organized in the same way so that bad actors can creep in…

You can just do it yourself if you want. You don’t have to listen to them.

I did! I created a discord that wasn't even attempting to represent the "city" itself, it was just for mid 30s guys to figure out if we wanted to go golfing or something. They told me they would ban me if I posted it again.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Doesn't come across as a narcissist to me. He's just giving his side. Sure, he might have done things that were not right, but the article paints him as a monster. You should but yourself in his shoes? Are you squeaky clean? What if someone took something that you did that was grey, and framed you as a monster?

The article came with receipts. Novati's defenses come across as a raving lunatic, all with unsubstantiated claims. And considering that it has been widely claimed in that subreddit, also with evidence, about his use of sockpuppets, I'm now extremely suspicious of the people running to his defense as well.

Novati's response also came with receipts. Check his other comments. And check his prev responses on Reddit, including open support for Codemsith, and we he fell out with them.

The receipts in the article were meh. Backed by other "bootcamps" testimonies. The article read like a hit piece, with exaggereated language. And it did not mention he was against other bootcamps as well.

And, not knocking down Codesmith at all, but I think there marketing might be a little exaggerated. Which is typical of many bootcamps.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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I can replicate by googling "sverken.se" But also: what google shows here is what's being indexed on your website. It shows "porn and prostitution" because at one point that's what your website served. Was sverken.se ever in the hand of shady domain parking services that advertised porn services? Strangely enough, the Internet Archive only saved the safe-for-work version (records start in Jan 2025, so the misdeed mus…

My website never served any of that. You got to stop using this very well known techniques by associating further names (knowing perfectly that HN comments get indexed very fast). The domain in question Sverken.se was always used for science or respectable business. Please refrain mentioning otherwise as I repeat, at any point my company website did such thing. Whoever keep associating them further is doing so by mal…

You're not making much sense. Anyone googling the domain and following the link can plainly see there is adult content being served from there. No amount of insisting that it doesn't is gonna help you. If you own the domain, it looks like your site was hacked or your domain hijacked. That is the problem you need to deal with.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Fair question. The answer is that they didn’t bother hiding it. They literally posted in a whole bunch of Iranian subReddits and only Iranian subReddits. On this thread they were claiming they were British. Literally the first post of that kind, completely different to everything they had posted previously. The clincher was that they deleted their account as soon as I pointed they were Iranian. I’m going to guess the…

Obviously this is not what the posting history of a state-sponsored disinformation actor looks like.

Obviously.

Please tell us why an account with a history of posting on Iranian subs was masquerading as a British person, getting British people riled up at 4am BST? And why did they delete the account immediately after this was pointed out?

State sponsored doesn’t necessarily mean they’re highly competent.

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