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Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

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Re: Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

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Post by aa-jv »

not_a_bot_4sho wrote: post #779
MomsAVoxell wrote: post #538

Too little, too late. The whole world knows that Microsoft has blood on its hands.

Yeah, not really. Kind of the opposite: they took action after investigation. The assertion that Microsoft knew what it's customers were doing, that it was inspecting customer data and workloads, comes from ignorance of how cloud providers work.

False. Microsoft knew very well they had contracts with the IDF, it was announced in flowery PR all over the place, and at the beginning of the genocide there were protests against Microsofts' overt involvement.

This is just CYA. That it took Microsoft this long is incorrigible.

Re: Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

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Post by aa-jv »

underdeserver wrote: post #376
moogly wrote: post #45

No one left to surveil, I guess.

Estimates of deaths are around 60,000, of a 2 million strong population.

Confirmed deaths are in the 60,000's.

Estimated deaths are in the 300,000's.

The international community must be allowed into Gaza to start counting skeletons.

Re: Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

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Post by aa-jv »

AtlasBarfed wrote: post #745
underdeserver wrote: post #376

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Estimates of deaths are around 60,000, of a 2 million strong population.

So... 1/10th of the civilian deaths in the Iraq war?

Iraq lost 5% of its population to the US' illegal, criminal war, and Iraqi mothers are still losing children to the side effects of the DU that has been deposited all over its major cities.

So the atrocity continues in Iraq, even to this day.

Re: Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

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Post by LightBug1 »

skinkestek wrote: post #790
LightBug1 wrote: post #670

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, despite all the testimonials and video evidence to the contrary, the findings of the world's leading association of genocide scholars, despite Jewish holocaust experts, despite my own conversations with doctors on the ground ... you seek to label accusations of genocide as "beyond ridiculous" from one sentence in a UN report? Not just dishonest. But sickening, frankly.

> the findings of the world's leading association of genocide scholars, Like IAGS whose findings were widely reported until it turned out the biggest qualifications for its 500 expert members was that they had paid a $30 membership fee? And whose openly accessible member list included "Adolf Hitler"? The emperor has no clothes and no amount of reports from the royal court of UN will change that: It is plain for every…

You people really are unhinged. I guess verifiable reports on the ground, from people I trust, isn't enough for you either. Literal eyeball witness accounts won't be enough for you. Mass graves won't be enough - obviously fabricated.

When this is over, people like you should be forced to go to those graves and the destruction and be made to reflect and be educated.

Just like people are now sent to Auschwitz.

You're the flip side coin equivalent of Holocaust deniers. My condolences on where you've ended up in life. Bye.

Re: Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

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Post by LightBug1 »

skinkestek wrote: post #791
LightBug1 wrote: post #637

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You've relayed one side of the story. I'm aware of the other side. Taking both together, nothing you've said justifies what has taken place over the last 2 years. And your comment on annexation as an end to occupation was truly bizarre, but ... unsurprising at this stage.

less than 60 000 people were killed in the Blitz against London. By your logic most of what happened in 1944 and 1945 when 350 000 to 500 000 German civilians died were probably injustice. But in the real world we need to deal with the people who again and again attack their neighbors in vicious ways. And we need to finish it.

No. WW2 was a response to the Nazi expansionism.

What's happening in Palestine is the equivalent of what happens when allies don't fight back against occupying forces.

Re: Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

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Post by AlecSchueler »

Manuel_D wrote: post #715
lordofgibbons wrote: post #553

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Are you seriously equating observing an area using satellites with indiscriminately monitoring everyone's calls, messages, and possibly hacking their devices?

Militaries do that too. Signals Intelligence has been thing since radios were used by the military. I bet you that in Ukraine the moment you fire up any RF emitter it's showing up on someone's spectrum analyzer. And if it's unencrypted or a broken encryption they'll probably be decoding and logging the transmission.

> bet you that in Ukraine the moment you fire up any RF emitter

The assertion was that "every army" is doing it, not that it's happening in active warzones.

Re: Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

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Post by Hikikomori »

zdragnar wrote: post #588
Hikikomori wrote: post #508

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>I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel. Everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly.

> We are fighting human animals What else do you call people who rape and murder civilians, then parade their dead bodies around to cheering crowds? Hamas will never have any sympathy from most people who watched the October 7 attack footage.

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Re: Microsoft blocks Israel’s use of its tech in mass surveillance of Palestinians

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Post by thrance »

AzzyHN wrote: post #749
dark_mode wrote: post #235

> The decision has not affected Microsoft’s wider commercial relationship with the IDF, which is a longstanding client and will retain access to other services. The termination will raise questions within Israel about the policy of holding sensitive military data in a third-party cloud hosted overseas. It's worth noting that even after finding out the "most moral" army is conducting mass surveillance, they're still h…

Where does "most moral" come from?

It's a throwaway line Israeli officials have been using for a long time. I heard Netanyahou himself use it to describe the IDF and explain it can't possibly do wrong.

https://x.com/IsraeliPM/status/1745501858611786029?lang=en

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