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Re: Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah

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The guy was the embodiment of the "prove me wrong" meme. His choice of getting in to the middle of people and answering anyone's questions in a situation where there's no re-takes, no edits, even if he might've felt overbearing, was quite a fire test of the commenter's arguments versus his counter-arguments. His assassination really is a direct attack on debate itself. There really isn't a world where the sick people…

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Re: Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah

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post #761

In light of the top post by "dang", I'd like to apologize for my own comments. Forgive me brothers and sisters, I was obviously on edge. In particular I'd like to apologize to one individual whom I insinuated was posting rage-bait. To close, this is a tragic time in America. Each act of violence is one act too many.

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Well, of course not. We agree that some types of violence are okay, like police or military using violence for police and military things. I'm sure he wouldn't have posted that if people were cheering that a serial rapist has been shot by the police.

Re: Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah

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post #762

2 Minnesota lawmakers shot in politically motivated killings, governor says (cbc.ca) 102 points by awnird 88 days ago | hide | past | favorite | 19 comments Interesting to see the 100x(!) attention that this gets on HN, likely representative of similar media reach on more mainstream channels, when it's not even lawmakers in this case.

You posted about this a few times already:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45208037

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45208072

The comparison with the Minnesota lawmaker murders submission sounds political and you seem to care about this aspect a lot to mention it 3 times

If you’re genuinely curious why this event is likely getting so much attention, I’d wager it has less to do with politics than it has with the fact that this occurred in front of thousands of people, mainly young students, and was recorded by many on their phones. It was also being broadcast I believe. Multiple angles of a very graphic video of a person getting murdered are all over the internet

It’s terrible when innocent people are murdered. In this case, many people watched it happen too

Re: Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah

#818

The sad irony is that he's at a college campus debating/arguing with people. At their best that's what college campuses are for. I know they haven't been living up to it lately but seeing him gunned down feels like a metaphor. I know he liked to publicize the exchanges where he got the best of someone, and bury the others, and that he was a far, far cry from a public intellectual. Still, he talked to folks about idea…

It is a performance that appears as a debate.

Re: Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah

#819

The sad irony is that he's at a college campus debating/arguing with people. At their best that's what college campuses are for. I know they haven't been living up to it lately but seeing him gunned down feels like a metaphor. I know he liked to publicize the exchanges where he got the best of someone, and bury the others, and that he was a far, far cry from a public intellectual. Still, he talked to folks about idea…

It is a performance that appears as a debate.

Is that relevant? Could be said about any public debate or speaker.

Re: Charlie Kirk killed at event in Utah

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This is crazy. Healthy debate and disagreement should be free in a democratic country, without any fear of violence, let alone death.

it was the performance of a guy "owning libs". It is not much of an honest debate if the guy enters it with a set of pre-packaged ideas that never get updated.
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