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Job-seekers are dodging AI interviewers

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Post by throwaway422432 »

mystraline wrote: post #373
Workaccount2 wrote: post #283

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Having recently come off a micro-binge of the rise of USSR and it's history, the common theme in keeping a state communist through change of leadership is "The system works great, they just didn't know how to run it properly." Then they also proceeded to just continue the devastation. The fundamental problem of communism is that everyone needs to play along, but the rewards for not playing along grow as more people d…

Chinese socialism is interesting and I think works quite well. Absolutely new stuff is basically unrestricted. Go build, have fun, make money. Intermediate stuff is partially state controlled, including cost, profits, pollution, and more. Essentials are effectively state owned, cost controlled, and 'very stable'. Also, the USSR was the first time it was tried. It succeeded some ways, but failed in others.

It seemingly works because China flipped away from communism to something more like corporatism/fascism.

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Post by foobarchu »

mcv wrote: post #582
akudha wrote: post #551

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It is not about not knowing some topic. I am myself an average programmer on my best day and I don't expect candidates to be genius level thinkers. It is the lying, the making stuff up on the spot - like what are they thinking? The blatant arrogance and callousness towards the person/people interviewing them. How hard can it be to say "I don't know" or "I don't use this concept in my daily tasks, but let me try to ex…

This is in fact one of my two requirements when interviewing: I want to hear the candidate say "I don't know" to a question. The other is that I want to hear them talk passionately about some project they once did. Bullshitting is an immediate fail.

Same. When I'm on a panel interviewing developers (as a developer myself), I don't actually care if you meet the specific listed qualifications directly, I want you to answer in ways that demonstrate how you think to prove to me that you can solve the problems the role needs. I don't want someone who can memorize a study guide, I want someone who can problem solve and think critically.

Each time I've gotten my way it turned out to be a great decision. When I've acquiesce to "but they knew all my java trivia questions" it's been a bad choice.

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Post by xahrepap »

atoav wrote: post #714
econnors wrote: post #548

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"Can you clarify what you mean by interface?" is the right answer

As someone who interviewed people for technical roles, I'd see that as a bad sign and answer: "Just tell me what you can think about." This isn't school where teachers give you trick questions and you fail if you misunderstand it. If you are applying as a software developer and you can't talk at length about various forms of interfaces you are probably not very experienced. UI, API, ABI are all interfaces..

One time an interviewer asked me languages I knew.

After I went through my experience with Java, C#, python, etc. he said, “I meant like… Spanish…”

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Post by gecko6 »

I was startled when I was interviewed by an AI interviewer, since I wasn't expecting anything like that (perhaps I'm naive). It asked a series of questions about my job experience and technologies I had not worked with, then at the end I was informed that my application had been rejected - for a position that was not the one I was applying to. I only regret that I did not think to just repeat "banana banana banana" over and over agin to see whether I could drive the AI into a weird state. That would have made it all worthwhile.

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Post by leptons »

gecko6 wrote: post #814

I was startled when I was interviewed by an AI interviewer, since I wasn't expecting anything like that (perhaps I'm naive). It asked a series of questions about my job experience and technologies I had not worked with, then at the end I was informed that my application had been rejected - for a position that was not the one I was applying to. I only regret that I did not think to just repeat "banana banana banana" o…

Sounds like Idiocracy to me. We really are speed-running into that movie world.

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Post by nlawalker »

ludicity wrote: post #704
franktankbank wrote: post #519

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You are giving advice to some of the dumbest people in the country. I'm not saying its bad advice, but these people are universally stupid. I don't know exactly why things ended up this way, but I'd love to hear where this isn't a truth.

I took a run at recruiting recently and it's so easy to outperform recruiters that it's honestly depressing. Just replying to emails at the times I promised made candidates self-report that I'm the best recruiter they've ever worked with.

Depends on your definition of “outperform”… if recruiters were being evaluated on what the candidates think of them they’d try harder in that respect.

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Post by mindok »

transcriptase wrote: post #772
ghxst wrote: post #644

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"What is an interface?" reminds me of one of my favorite interview questions: "What happens when you open a browser and visit a webpage?". There’s no single right answer and when asked in the right way I find it helps surface knowledge and skills candidates might not otherwise bring up. Some go into OS internals, others talk about networking, some focus on UI and page load performance. Even when candidates expect the…

“324 unrelated companies are made aware of you visiting the webpage via a mountain of JavaScript, tracking pixels, cookies, and telemetry, and then your browser renders megabytes of code to display kilobytes of content, while prompting you to make an account or download an app”

Hope you just overlooked the auto-playing video ads due to the pressure of the interview. When can you start?

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Post by chipsrafferty »

wishinghand wrote: post #790
mh- wrote: post #764

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> I have 9 YOE now so I've done the usual gauntlet hundreds of times by now. I'm not sure how to parse this.. you've done hundreds of interviews, as the candidate, in 9 years of experience?

If they move jobs every two years, that’s 5 periods of interviewing. 40 interviews per period doesn’t seem too out there.

I interpreted that as "I got laid off and I have 9 y.o.e. and I've done hundreds of interviews in this current period"

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Post by cryptonector »

econnors wrote: post #548
bee_rider wrote: post #540

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I think “what is an interface” would trip me up actually, haha. My thought process was: Well, most of the code I use uses a Reverse Communication Interface. But, I think these are pretty old-school projects, maybe I should start by talking about the Object Oriented interface to the library that we recently did. Or maybe I can talk about the file IO based interface that I did, it was extremely cursed but kind of funny…

"Can you clarify what you mean by interface?" is the right answer

"Broadly speaking an interface is a contract exposing some elements that can be used to interact with a system from the outside. Narrowing things down a lot an interface in, say the Java programming language, is a name for a set of methods that classes implementing that interface must provide (and also some that are optional). Would you like to explore this topic further?"

would be my answer.

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Post by cryptonector »

Balgair wrote: post #492
smrtinsert wrote: post #416

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If they don't have time to meet you, they won't give a damn about you during your employment there. This instinct is 100% in my opinion. Meeting you should be one of the most crucial human in the loop events.

I mean, for me it was definitely a sign that the company wasn't a fit. If they tried automating away one fo the most critical aspects of the company (hiring) then what else was being left out?

Presumably it's just a screen, and after that they'd use humans. But still, 45 minutes of screening by AI is a bit much.
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