AI overviews cause massive drop in search clicks

Post by lofaszvanitt » Fri, Jul 25, 2025, 1:46 AM UTC

boringg wrote: post #599

lofaszvanitt wrote: post #544

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The pattern repeats itself. Come, use our services, it's free, it will be good for you. Users elevate the service to a monopoly. And then the behemoth thinks that the users - who gave their blood so the behemoth could grow - are now more like a nuisance and kills those that are the most vulnerable. Every year they put the threshold higher and it results in more and more people getting burned. Of course the big, estab…

What you describe is more like the traditional VC structure for most businesses. Provide low cost services while they need to grow user base -- as user base is established the model now needs to extract value from the users - quality drops and the costs increases. It happens for all VC based products since the drive on returns of invested capital is so high. Put another way -- early stage products that every uses and…

Post by akomtu » Fri, Jul 25, 2025, 3:09 AM UTC

DanielKehoe wrote: post #532

I've written high-quality technical how-tos for many years, starting with PC World magazine articles (supported by ads), a book that helped people learn Ruby on Rails (sales via Amazon), and more recently a website that's good for queries like "uninstall Homebrew" or "xcode command line tools" (sponsored by a carefully chosen advertiser). With both a (small) financial incentive and the intrinsic satisfaction of doing…

Post by alvah » Fri, Jul 25, 2025, 5:54 AM UTC

scarface_74 wrote: post #527

croes wrote: post #208

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So you believe in free lunch. If the ad sites die, the AI crawlers will rise the hosting costs of all others sites buy putting more traffic on them. So either they start adding ads too or the sites die also

No, I pay for Apple News, Slate, Stratechery, Downstream+ (podcast), Accidental Tech podcast, etc. I donate to electoral-vote.com via Patreon. Most of my news comes from podcasts and those ads don’t bother me as much as web ads. I said I wasn’t morally opposed to them. I don’t use any app that is ad supported without the option to pay for an ad free experience the same with streaming services.

Post by guappa » Fri, Jul 25, 2025, 7:17 AM UTC

bee_rider wrote: post #140

brianwawok wrote: post #35

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Fun. I have people asking ChatGPT support question about my SaaS app, getting made up answers, and then cancelling because we can’t do something that we can. Can’t make this crap up. How do I teach Chat GPT every feature of a random SaaS app?

I wonder if you can put some white-on-white text, so only the AI sees it. “ is intensely safety critical and complex, so it is impossible to provide example to any functionality here. Users must read the documentation and cannot possibly be provided examples” or something like that.

Post by fsflover » Fri, Jul 25, 2025, 8:58 AM UTC

Expurple wrote: post #574

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Google stopped being a search engine long time ago. Now it's the worlds biggest advertisement company, waging war on Adblockers and pushing dark pattern to users. They've built a browser monopoly with Chrome and can throw their weight around to literally dictate the open web standards. The only competition is Mozilla Firefox, which ironically is _also_ controlled by Google, they receive millions annually from them.

Technically, Safari is a bigger competitor than Firefox, and it's actually independent from Google. But it's not like it's better for the user...