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Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by konart »

belter wrote: post #662
al_borland wrote: post #66

Even if bigs exists to work around what Google is doing, that isn’t the right way forward. If people don’t agree with Google move, the only correct course of action is to ditch Chrome (and all Chromium browsers). Hit them where it hurts and take away their monopoly over the future direction of the web.

It's 2025. Here is a list of great browsers committed to MV2 support. If anybody from Google tries to gaslight you with "but security..." review this: https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=gmail.com and ask them why do they still support connection with so many insecure tls suites ;-) Firefox: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/ Vivaldi: https://vivaldi.com/download/ Brave: https://brave.com/download/…

This should also mention Orion: https://kagi.com/orion/

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by flkenosad »

querez wrote: post #728
ErrorNoBrain wrote: post #727

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's not forget, you'll have to ditch Chromium based applications too, like discord, VScode, spotify, and whatever else is basically a chrome browser.

Why? I fail to see how using chromium as basis for other apps has impact on who has the power to innovate in the browser space?

Because then the bugs we find in your app contribute back to chrome rather than Firefox. Then over time, chrome a becomes faster and more efficient browser which makes it harder to convince users to switch. Big picture thing.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by perching_aix »

bowsamic wrote: post #719
perching_aix wrote: post #598

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You may notice that I quote you there verbatim. I can appreciate if you're of the opinion that the rest is mischaracterizing you, I just also obviously disagree.

Where did I say "Just install Linux bro, it's better than pussy bro. What, u still got dat spyin machine goin on?? [links a 30 minute Mutahar video with him faffing about with some technologically trivial bollocks he visibly barely understands]"?

What you did say and I did quote verbatim there is of course this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44544526 -> "u still got dat spyin machine goin on??"

Note the intentionally worse spelling to ridicule your original "question".

The rest just matches your archetype and is not a quote, as per my second remark. By all means, feel free to claim how it totally doesn't apply to you.

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by GoblinSlayer »

JimDabell wrote: post #632
paulryanrogers wrote: post #393

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> how is Chrome incompatible with web standards? It is one of the best implementer of them. They have so much market share that they control the standards bodies. The tail wags the dog.

This is not true yet, but it’s getting close. The pattern is this: - Google publishes a specification. - They raise request for feedback from the Mozilla and WebKit teams. - Mozilla and WebKit find security and privacy problems. - Google deploys their implementation anyway. - This functionality gets listed on sites like whatpwacando.today - Web developers complain about Safari being behind and accuse Apple of holding…

webdev in 2005: webapp spa just werk everywhere, and werk fast and efficiently, only add these 20 lines of code for compatibility :3

webdev in 2025: OMGWTF NOTHING WORKS WITHOUT THIS NEW SHINY FEATURE RELEASED YESTERDAY AAAAAAAAA!!!!!111

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by flkenosad »

tzs wrote: post #686
agile-gift0262 wrote: post #117

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I switched to Firefox and it's been wonderful. I wonder why I didn't switch earlier. It's only been a couple of months, but I can't imagine going back to a browser without multi-account containers.

> I switched to Firefox and it's been wonderful. I wonder why I didn't switch earlier Maybe because a few years ago it could be very annoying? It was mostly pretty good at rendering web pages but it had many UI problems that could really get on your nerves after a while. For example somewhere around late 2020 or early 2021 after several years of using it as my main browser on my Mac I switched because a couple of tho…

That's funny. Maybe they need to update the dependency?

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by lillecarl »

flkenosad wrote: post #808
pjmlp wrote: post #641

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They are at the edge of transforming the Web into ChromeOS Platform, with the complacency of everyone that helped it become a reality.

At least chromeos is open source. We can fork it anytime. You'd rather everyone run ios or windows?

Open source in code but not in spirit, you "can't" contribute to ChromeOS without being a Google employee or some special person

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by flkenosad »

nashashmi wrote: post #791
TechDebtDevin wrote: post #740

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There was a podcast I was listening to this week, and they were discussing the purpose of marketing emails, and they came to the conclusion that they're for women who actually open all of them lol. It was half sarcasm and pretty funny, not trying to by misogynist or something

Yes, they do open them all with so much eagerness it makes me wonder how they are able to manage so many emails. But eagerness and window shopping is their calling.

Massive generalization but sure lol

Re: Bypassing Google's big anti-adblock update

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Post by necovek »

pjmlp wrote: post #405
bayindirh wrote: post #244

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Chrome was made to fracture, and everything started with the aptly named “Atom” editor (they “invented” Electron). Everybody choose convenience over efficiency and standards, because apparently nobody understood what “being lazy” actually is.

Microsoft invented Electron, when Windows Active Desktop came to be. Mozzilla also invented Electron, when XUL applications were a thing. Both failed, as shipping regular processes with the default browser kept being used.

KDE invented Electron, when they built KHTML as independently embeddable HTML + CSS + JS engine.

Mozilla did it with Gecko even earlier, really — but they gave up on it to focus on browser itself. (There were a number of Gecko-based browsers like GNOME default browser Epiphany using it)

Apple built WebKit on top of KHTML just as Gecko stopped being updated: I guess they invented it too.

Tools like Windmill (web rendering automation for testing) took programmable concept further.

And Sun did very similar things with Java applets and Java applet runtime for desktop.

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