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Re: WhatsApp introduces ads in its app

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WhatsApp make billions of dollars but Meta wants it to make hundreds of billions. There's no way to appease the dragon.

How many of the people posting here that criticize this move are owners of Meta stock? The number is certainly above 50%, at least for those in the US, since most people with a retirement plan will own Meta in some form. It's the need to satisfy shareholders with new earnings.

So you’re blaming me because Fidelity bought some Meta for my 401K without me directly knowing?

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WhatsApp make billions of dollars but Meta wants it to make hundreds of billions. There's no way to appease the dragon.

How many of the people posting here that criticize this move are owners of Meta stock? The number is certainly above 50%, at least for those in the US, since most people with a retirement plan will own Meta in some form. It's the need to satisfy shareholders with new earnings.

What choice do we have? Indeed, I would rather prefer that the companies that comprise the broad market embrace some form of ESG ethos, but that's clearly out of vogue these days. I vote to that extent, but I'm a breathtakingly small portion of the vote when it comes to corporate governance.

Re: WhatsApp introduces ads in its app

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What about non traveling Chinese?

I'd say Chinese people are aware that their Internet is pretty different from the rest of the world. Americans tend to believe everyone is trying very hard to be like them (when they think about the rest of the world at all).

Ironically WhatsApp is also American.

Re: WhatsApp introduces ads in its app

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I guess this was expected, but it makes me feel really powerless in the sense that I can't really move away from WhatsApp. I have a couple of friends that I message via Signal and even convinced my dad to use it a while back, but here in Brazil WhatsApp is _everything_, and I doubt most people care about this at all. In my case, I'd love to just go over to Signal fully but then I couldn't talk to family, friends, and…

Last night I just removed myself from every friend groupchat and blocked everyone there, while leaving a status message about how they can reach me on Signal or call me. If they are actually your friends they'll come around, and families survived before Whatsapp existed. I'm also brazilian, I just won't stand with people dismissing what matters to me as if I'm a nutjob for not using their fascist app

I have been that guy a few times in last few years. But

> If they are actually your friends

this just takes the cake to a different dimension altogether!

Re: WhatsApp introduces ads in its app

#817

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"the iphone 4's antenna isn't a bad design, you're just holding it wrong" - steve jobs

To be fair Whatsapp works the same, if you are not careful when changing phone you will lose your history. That's because they don't actually store your messages on their servers, they are just synchronized between devices.

That's not the case though, at least for me? I had set Whatsapp to backup to Google Drive, and when I switched to an iPhone it did some automagix and all my stuff was there (and then backed up to iCloud!).

Re: WhatsApp introduces ads in its app

#819

At least in The Netherlands, WhatsApp could show a 60 second unskippable modal ad video on every launch, and still get away with it due to network effects. If you’re not on WhatsApp, no updates or news from your kids school, your sports team, your family, your car dealership etc. for you.

In India a palm will pop out of the phone screen every few hours and deliver a tight slap and people might still use it.

Even banks et cetera are making it the first class communication medium especially for OTP (which technically is safer than SMS but a glaring lock into a desk-less foreign company and at the same time the “OTP” can literally be the single point to take over someone’s almost entire life - including almost every single paisa). Every other day I am shown a sneaky lightning popup or two asking me to consent to send everything or something on WhatsApp. Sometimes the popup is about something entirely else but there’s an already checked checkbox with WhatsApp consent. Calling it bizarre will be an understatement.

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Can we get a federated messenger already? Sure, we have email, but the MS/Google duopoloy has effectively unfederated that, with their inscrutable block lists and nonexistent appeals processes, allegedly in order to protect you from spam. Sure, XMPP is a thing, which has been mostly dead for well over a decade. Sure, Matrix is a thing, but every time I look at it, all I see is criticism of its specifications and poor…

What about SMS?

They cost around 0.15€/message in Spain.
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