The Demoralization is just Beginning

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Re: The Demoralization is just Beginning

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Post by greenhearth » Tue, Mar 11, 2025, 7:22 PM UTC

feoren wrote: post #779

greenhearth wrote: post #723

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What a ridiculous statement. Any dictatorship is a subpar expression of a state. We don't have to figure out the best government. We already have all kinds of ideas about this collected from millennia of thought on this subject. We just have to study and bring it into reality.

> We don't have to figure out the best government. We already have all kinds of ideas about this collected from millennia of thought on this subject. Except for 99.9% of those millennia, humanity had very different challenges than it does today. One of the biggest being effective communication between people. There's a reason the U.S. constitution talks about sending delegates to Washington D.C. Another being an abun…

The baseline theory of the state is exhausted. It's like figuring out how to build a car. We have all the ideas already, and the little innovative improvements are the cherries on top. We have quite a few modern political thinkers as well as ancient ones, not victors, but real critical thinkers and historians. As far as communication problem, yeah you may be right, but this is a problem of implementation, not architecture.

And come on, "Galadriel" and some mythical pharaoh? This is your argument-viable examples? I think a little too much fantasy is overtaking your thoughts; you might want to switch to non-fiction for a few months to balance yourself out.

Re: The Demoralization is just Beginning

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Post by lacerrr » Tue, Mar 11, 2025, 7:36 PM UTC

thrwwy001 wrote: post #670

ViktorRay wrote: post #4

Steve Jobs told Obama something similar once. The idea was to provide worker visas to engineers who did well and graduated from good American universities. Basically give those workers a visa along with their diploma. Obama thought the idea was intriguing and mentioned it multiple times to his advisors. It never went anywhere though. Brain draining the rest of the world is one of the main reasons for America’s succes…

> Brain draining the rest of the world is one of the main reasons for America’s success. Not true. America was successful regardless of immigration. For example, for much of the 20th century, the US banned immigration from most of the world. Look up the history of US immigration bans. It's quite enlightening > It is due to America being a nation of immigrants that we can do this. America is not and never has been a n…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_St...

> Due to its history the United States can be described as an immigration country.

Being a nation of immigrants does not mean the majority of the population are migrants at any given point in time. You need to consider how many waves of migration have arrived in the USA one after another, not all at once.

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