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Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by raudette »

ryandrake wrote: post #512
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #390

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May end up doing that. We'll see. I also write software for these beasties, and it may well be that I won't be able to justify avoiding getting one that has Apple Intelligence.

Eventually, Apple (and 3p developers) will abandon you, and you'll need to throw away a perfectly good phone and take another step on the treadmill. I'm still hanging on to my perfectly working iPhone 7, while app developers tell me to fuck off left and right. It does everything I want a phone to do, but developers consider "old phones" to be icky and stop supporting them.

Ultimately, one of the cameras in my iPhone 7 failed, and I replaced it with an SE3 - which was indistinguishable from the 7 - but another issue was patches.

With very little skill, I found I could duplicate this issue on my iPhone 7 running the latest supported version of iOS: https://joshua.hu/apple-ios-patched-unpatched-vulnerabilitie...

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by selykg »

surfpel wrote: post #604
selykg wrote: post #78

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You should get 5 years of updates out of it I suspect. It was originally released in September of 2021. So, 2026 might be the final year of iOS updates you'll get, then it's just a matter of how long they back port any security fixes. Sometimes devices end up getting longer support so it's tough to say for sure. At this point one of these SE type devices is on my list for any future upgrades. I've gone to carrying a…

Highly doubt that. The latest version of iOS (18) is still compatible with the XS from in 2018 - that's almost 7 years ago now

For sure, I think 5 is the minimum I’ve seen lately. It’s pretty dang good from a longevity perspective.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

wilg wrote: post #809
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #804

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This is a word salad.

no it isn't. also im not trying to make it punchy, im trying to clarify my point.

> im not trying to make it punchy, im trying to clarify my point

Your phrasing requires prior knowledge of the iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Pro. It's also defining an interval without giving context to whether that interval is meaningful, where on the interval the 16e exists, and if any of the preceding are meaningful. The increased precision comes at the cost of conciseness and clarity.

Apple's, on the other hand, tells me that this is the best battery life an iPhone has had in this form factor. No unnecessary priors being pulled; I just need to know if I like a 6.1" screen.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY »

ryandrake wrote: post #790
bschwindHN wrote: post #747

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Yup - it was the same for me with the 2016 SE. Still runs perfectly fine, we're still doing the same old CRUD web shit for apps, but apparently now our apps are so much more advanced that there's no possible way they could keep supporting that "legacy" hardware. https://blog.bschwind.com/2025/01/11/the-original-iphone-se-...

I'm totally with you, with that article. It is terrible how owners of slightly-old hardware are treated by software developers. Leaving potentially millions of users out in the cold because they just can't be bothered to keep a maintenance branch around and backport a few fixes to it. For apps that are by and large not complicated. So much waste sacrificed at the altar of developer comfort!

My low-end test unit is an old SE (running 15). I'm an iOS native developer. The screen size is the main reason I test with it.

However, these days, I usually release with minimum support beginning with iOS 16, because I am a one-man shop.

My stuff will usually run in 15, though.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by gumby271 »

seec wrote: post #549
asdff wrote: post #430

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The only issue is now you pay for icloud for life. Terrible service just try pulling a lot of photos off of it. Basically can't be done because no matter the tool you try you get connection timeout issues after a couple dozen photos. I have like 60k photos on a family members icloud account that we can't get at all. Stuck paying icloud now for that person. Frankly at this point I'd pay for physical media mailed if th…

Yep. And the incentive at Apple is to keep making people use more cloud and have them pay more for it so they can say they make more profit from the service division. It's quite bad, because it's a rug pull that Apple did. Before all the cloud/service nonsense, what differentiated Apple from the rest was your ability to fully own and manage their devices easily without having to rely on some "forever" subscription. I…

> what differentiated Apple from the rest was your ability to fully own and manage their devices easily without having to rely on some "forever" subscription.

I'm not sure that's ever been true of the iPhone. Apple's app store is the only way to install software, you're tied to their cloud from day 1. Its not a paid subscription that you're locked into, but they make sure everyone pays in some way.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by shipscode »

tbolt wrote: post #585
shipscode wrote: post #518

Is bluetooth reliable yet or is this model going to be plagued with the same persistent issues since the iPhone 14?

> Is bluetooth reliable Will it ever be?

Not like a cable, but it's gotten really bad. I had constant drops on my iPhone 14 Pro. Eventually they shipped me a new one that had the same issue, but the recent software update fixed it almost 100%, like 1 drop/month instead of 10 daily.

Then I bought an iPhone 16 Pro and it was even worse than my iPhone 14 Pro... so I returned it even though I wanted a new phone.

It's gotta be affecting their bottom line.

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by amazingman »

makeitdouble wrote: post #755
amazingman wrote: post #737

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>But somehow pushing the modem in the MacBook solves this...because Apple is then good at managing transient network connections in macos, hooking to complex mesh networks on protocols they don't control ? A cell modem is mostly just another uplink, with all the hard stuff being done in the modem. The user doesn't need to do anything to use it. Tethering requires extra stuff to happen: the user has to initiate the co…

You choose to simplify how to integrate the modem into the system while digging deeper into how tethering happens. Why doesn't having another separate subsystem running it's own OS managing the cell connection also have network switching implications (something deciding the connection is now the primary one, just like it does for tethering), security issues (it's a know attack vector on phones as well), power managem…

Can you make a reasonable case for why the experience must necessarily be worse in macOS than it is in iOS and iPadOS?

Re: Apple Debuts iPhone 16e

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Post by ffiirree »

dfabulich wrote: post #123

Check out the battery life! > iPhone 16e has the best battery life ever on a 6.1-inch iPhone, lasting up to six hours longer than iPhone 11 and up to 12 hours longer than all generations of iPhone SE. Their page comparing models claims the new 16e gets "26 hours video playback." iPhone 16e: 26 hours iPhone 16: 22 hours iPhone 15: 20 hours iPhone 14: 20 hours iPhone 13: 19 hours iPhone 12: 17 hours iPhone 11: 17 hours…

There's maybe other simplicity things that make it more battery efficient, like no dynamic island, only one camera, no magsafe, maybe stuff like that. But I am not an expert or anything
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