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The Origins of Wokeness

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Re: The Origins of Wokeness

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Read this and understand one thing, you being anti-woke is not fighting the elite, fighting a cabal of anti-freedom leftists. You are sided with the billionaires, politicians and justices of the Supreme Court that hold virtually all the power in this country. You are on the side of Putin and the Iranian regime, both calling out "western degeneracy". "Wokeness" is nothing but a scarecrow used to discredit any and all…

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Re: The Origins of Wokeness

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Read this and understand one thing, you being anti-woke is not fighting the elite, fighting a cabal of anti-freedom leftists. You are sided with the billionaires, politicians and justices of the Supreme Court that hold virtually all the power in this country. You are on the side of Putin and the Iranian regime, both calling out "western degeneracy". "Wokeness" is nothing but a scarecrow used to discredit any and all…

"Wokeness" is what results in horrifying outcomes of policy like this:

https://4w.pub/male-inmate-charged-with-raping-woman-inside-...

This is a direct result of "progressive" beliefs being translated into policy.

It should be no surprise that people start to question and reject these beliefs when they begin to understand the harm they cause.

Re: The Origins of Wokeness

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I think the word “woke” means very different things to some people. As an example I think people from the American political left to somewhere(?) in the middle see it as what it has been introduced as, that being looking past the status quo and instead looking at your own values, i.e. the morality of homelessness and not having a disdain for them but empathy for them instead. and then on the other side it feels like…

“Woke”, for the most part, is a boogeyman that the conservative right uses as a summary label for various political movements on the left. Basically nobody on the left talks about “woke” except for perhaps a period of six months back in 2017. Many political groups do this: they identify some aspect of the opposition, preferably one that is easy to ridicule, and then repeat those accusations ad-nauseum. The complaints…

I wish there was a book or website with such patterns and examples written down for all.

It takes a certain linguistic skill to convey the sleight of hand in display in such maneuvers. But once you're grasped it, you can easily spot it and almost predict what the next set of actions is going to be.

As an aside this applies to a wide variety of places like corporate settings, negotiations, sales meetings, city council meetings to mention a few so its generally useful to know.

Re: The Origins of Wokeness

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There’s a globally shared movement opposing anything the left considers progress—for minorities, the environment, a shift away from fossil fuels, animal rights, fairness, and other ethical causes. This opposition dismissively labels such efforts as “wokeness.” From the US to Germany, from Orbán to Erdoğan, you see this trend everywhere. It’s largely driven by men who feel their way of life is under threat. They want…

In other words, it is impossible for there to be excesses or incorrect opinions on the left.

Re: The Origins of Wokeness

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If anything, this is a useful looking glass into the minds of people who love to complain about language policing and think "censorship" is our biggest social problem.

Censorship is and always has been a central threat to a free, pluralistic and democratic society.

It is always a key tool of authoritarian governments. And always starts with people thinking certain ideas are too dangerous to express.

Re: The Origins of Wokeness

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>Thanks to Sam Altman, Ben Miller, Daniel Gackle, Robin Hanson, Jessica Livingston, Greg Lukianoff, Harj Taggar, Garry Tan, and Tim Urban for reading drafts of this.

Can we have a conversation about the fact that Y Combinator is full of weird conservative dudes who actively lie about easily verifiable things? I mean, everyone knows "woke" originated in black culture... Except, perhaps, for out-of-touch Silicon Valley tech bros. This is just disgusting and pathetic.

Re: The Origins of Wokeness

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> Should students and employees have to participate in woke indoctrination sessions in which they're required to answer questions about their beliefs to ensure compliance? No, because we wouldn't dream of catechizing people in this way about their religion. But a group prayer led by a school coach is, of course, totally fine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennedy_v._Bremerton_School_Di...

Pretty sure pg would say they’re the same thing. I don’t remember him carrying water for religion.
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