The $200/month price point, I think, limit accessibility for individuals and smaller teams who could benefit from this tool but lack the budget...
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#812Why doesn't Pro include longer context windows? I'm a Plus member, and the biggest limitation I am running into by far is the maximum length of a context window. I'm having context fall out of scope throughout the conversion or not being able to give it a large document that I can then interrogate. So if I go from paying $20/month for 32,000 tokens, to $200/month for Pro, I expect something more akin to Enterprise's…
In my experience OpenAI models perform worse on long contexts than Anthropic/Google's, even when using the cheaper ones.
When I tested o1 a few hours ago, it seemed like it was losing context. After I asked it to use a specific writing style, and pasting a large reference text, it forgot my demand. I reminded it, and it kept the rule for a few more messages, and after another long paste it forgot again.
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#813After a few hours of $200 Pro usage, it's completely worth it. Having no limit on o1 usage is a game changer, where I felt so restricted before, the amount of intelligence at the palm of my hand UNLIMITED feels a bit scary.
Wouldn't it be cheaper to use API and 3rd party UI if usage limit is your concern?
Not simply usage, the new o1 is also FAST. It's just incredibly liberating being able to have unlimited usage of such a smart fast model.
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#814Earlier quoted context omitted.
Man, if they can solve that "trust" problem, OpenAI could really have an big advantage. Imagine if they were nonprofit, open source, documented all of the data that their training was being done with, or published all of their boardroom documents. That'd be a real distinguishing advantage. Somebody should start an organization like that.
The cyber security gatekeepers care very little about that kind of stuff. They care only about what does not get them in trouble, and AI in many enterprises is still viewed as a cyber threat.
I mean it was probably a jive at OpenAIs transition to for-profit, but you’re absolutely right.
Enterprise decision makers care about compliance, certifications and “general market image” (which probably has a proper English word). OpenAI has none of that, and they will compete with companies that do.
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#815Earlier quoted context omitted.
Teams winning on price instead of quality is very telling of the state of business. Your #1/#2 communication tool being regarded as a cost to be saved upon.
Name a strictly better corporate communication tool than Teams
I’m not sure you can considering how broad a term “better” is. I do know a lot of employees in a lot of non-tech organisations here in Denmark wishes they could still use Zoom.
Even in my own organisation Teams isn’t exactly a beloved platform. The whole “Teams” part of it can actually solve a lot of the issues our employees have with sharing documents, having chats located in relation to a project and so on, but they just don’t use it because they hate it.
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#816After a few hours of $200 Pro usage, it's completely worth it. Having no limit on o1 usage is a game changer, where I felt so restricted before, the amount of intelligence at the palm of my hand UNLIMITED feels a bit scary.
Can you share what sort of things you are doing with o1?
Creating somewhat complex python scripts at work to automate some processes which incorporate like 3-4 APIs, and next I'll be replacing our excise tax processing (which costs us like $500/month) since we already have all the data.
Personal use I'll be using it to upgrade all my website code. I literally took a screenshot of Apple.com and combined it with existing code from my website and told o1 pro to combine the two... the results were really good, especially for one shot... But again, I have unlimited fast usage so I can just keep tweaking and tweaking.
I also have this history idea I've been wanting to do for a while, might see if the models are advanced enough yet.
All this with an understanding on how programming works, but not being able to code.
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#817I paid $200 but it can't figure out something this simple. Sonnet 3.5 gets this question right https://chatgpt.com/share/67528a78-c61c-8007-b6fa-1d1deb8d84... I'm going to give it one month. So far I'm inclined to not pay this crazy fee if the performance is like this
Am I reading that correctly? You're using GPT 4o-mini? Why not try the more impressive o1 model?
Not that I think any of these would be worth it for me.
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#818OpenAI is racing against two clocks: the commoditization clock (how quickly open-source alternatives catch up) and the monetization clock (their need to generate substantial revenue to justify their valuation). The ultimate success of this strategy depends on what we might call the enterprise AI adoption curve - whether large organizations will prioritize the kind of integrated, reliable, and "safe" AI solutions Open…
AI's utility isn't fully locked into large enterprises
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#820As I said before. OpenAI cannot maintain profitability unless they can increase the pricing an order of magnitude. Adding a $200 pro plan is only the first step. Expect they will also have $2k and 20$k per month plans soon and your "normal" $20 plan will curiously be worse and worse every month
They're not adding a $200 plan to solve a profitability challenge.
They have added the plan because they need to show that their most advanced model is ready for the market, but it's insanely expensive to operate. They may even still lose money for every user that sign up for Pro and start using the model.