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Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by tuatoru »

makeitdouble wrote: post #528
IgorPartola wrote: post #284

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The real advancements majority of users would notice: - Get rid of green text when messaging Android phones - More battery life. - Better camera (arguably already achieved) - lesser issue but fix the stupid bugs with storage/duplication with pictures and messages. I am already paying for a TB level plan with iCloud. How can my phone possibly run out of storage? That’s it. All the AI stuff is marginal at best and usel…

> Better camera (arguably already achieved) I feel the later generation of phones went back a bit as they have more aggressive processing. It can work great, but the hit or miss ratio is worse, in particular noise processing can be way off. That's crazy the budget Pixel a lone gets overall better photos than a top of the line iPhone.

I don't see a need to upgrade my Xs. I can print publishable photos to A2 size, and that's big enough for me.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by mFixman »

usaphp wrote: post #285

I love how ridiculous the scene to showcase Apple's Intelligence ability to tell you what bread the dog was. Instead of simply asking a women what breed her dog was - he had to open a camera app on his iPhone, ask a women a permission to take a photo of the dog, wait until the AI gives him an answer...

These MBA-approved use cases for AI feel like the Futurama parody of The Twilight Zone.

The one from Google the AI a man was using to raise his child convinced him to use Gemini to write an admiration letter to an athlete wouldn't look out of place in the series.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by johnnyanmac »

mulmen wrote: post #700
iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

I am an engineer at a big tech company. I’m not a “normie”. Even for me the new features aren’t compelling. They don’t really help me do anything I actually want to do. They don’t solve a problem or scratch an itch. And features change so often and so drastically I don’t really care to learn. I used to have an optical zoom but now I have super wide angle. My Fidelity widget used to show my balance but now it doesn’t…

well not fully solved. That's why I was watching foldable phones carefully and seeing how they iterate. That was indeed the first thing in a long time that both excited me and easily had me imagining various improvements (horizontal folds for productivity, vertical to minimize space. Both to built-in protect the screen).

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by tuatoru »

rolisz wrote: post #771
1123581321 wrote: post #747

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When you get older, the photos aren’t for you, they’re for the descendants of you and your siblings, and their communities during funerals etc. It sounds like you needed a healthy correction from too much sharing and organizing, but just a few shots will be treasured.

Come on, my grandkids won't sift through 200GB of photos. They'll look at 10-100 at most and then get bored.

future historians would like to, though.

That's why it's important to document your house and your town (all of it, not just the glamorous bits), rather than travelling to exotic locations to take photos like some lame "influencer".

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by alecco »

1123581321 wrote: post #747
steelframe wrote: post #603

I used to care about my photos a lot. After accumulating a few decades worth of photos I've gotten to the point where I don't care about my photos at all. I used to obsess over megapixel count, portrait mode, FPS, lighting, and so forth, because I used to think that these amazing images would be priceless in the future. Well, the future came and went, and to me they actually ended up being worthless. At one time I ca…

When you get older, the photos aren’t for you, they’re for the descendants of you and your siblings, and their communities during funerals etc. It sounds like you needed a healthy correction from too much sharing and organizing, but just a few shots will be treasured.

Grandkids will probably be able to make a VR reconstruction from a couple of bad photos.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by kristianc »

mithr wrote: post #349
iteratethis wrote: post #258

I'm conflicted. It's absolutely stunning what smartphones can do these days and Apple makes an excellent product. It feels ungrateful and cynical to keep calling new models "boring". The reality though is that normie needs were accomplished several generations ago. I'll use my girlfriend as a sample of such user. She can't tell the difference between LCD and OLED nor would she notice Pro-motion. You can add a million…

I don't know that I completely agree. To some degree, sure — most folks probably don't notice the year-to-year updates in e.g. computing power. But my 70yo mother, who is pretty far from being technologically savvy, uses continuity every day to copy one-time-use codes from her phone to her computer, even though she'd have no idea what the term "continuity" means in this context. She notices that it's easier to snap b…

Nearly all of the things you describe there aside from the camera are software/services based and don’t require improved hardware year-on-year at all. This is a problem for a company that makes its money selling expensive hardware.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by dleink »

steelframe wrote: post #603

I used to care about my photos a lot. After accumulating a few decades worth of photos I've gotten to the point where I don't care about my photos at all. I used to obsess over megapixel count, portrait mode, FPS, lighting, and so forth, because I used to think that these amazing images would be priceless in the future. Well, the future came and went, and to me they actually ended up being worthless. At one time I ca…

I don't take pictures for the internet, I take them for the memories and to try to add a little artistry to the things in my life.

I also think cameras can be a positive part of "the moment" wherever that is. Photography and dealing with a camera can be a meditative way to see reality.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by flakeoil »

1123581321 wrote: post #747
steelframe wrote: post #603

I used to care about my photos a lot. After accumulating a few decades worth of photos I've gotten to the point where I don't care about my photos at all. I used to obsess over megapixel count, portrait mode, FPS, lighting, and so forth, because I used to think that these amazing images would be priceless in the future. Well, the future came and went, and to me they actually ended up being worthless. At one time I ca…

When you get older, the photos aren’t for you, they’re for the descendants of you and your siblings, and their communities during funerals etc. It sounds like you needed a healthy correction from too much sharing and organizing, but just a few shots will be treasured.

I doubt that the descendants will be that interested to be honest. It's not like we today pour over the images that exist of our parents and grandparents.

Having thousands upon thousands of images to look at does not make it better.

It's nice to have a couple from each year maybe, but the huge amount of pics we have today is just ruining the experience and value of the pics somehow.

As they are stored somewhere digital on a device or cloud makes them also somehow less accessible even though technically they are more accessible. If they lay around in an album on a coffee table or a book shelf makes them more visible. It makes it also a nice way of talking about the pictures with friends or relatives when someone pics up the album.

Re: iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max

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Post by alt227 »

WillPostForFood wrote: post #533
runjake wrote: post #382

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> Most people don't buy the pro Historically, that was true, but more recently, most people do buy the Pro. I don't know why (actually I do: FOMO and monthly payment plans). https://www.techradar.com/phones/iphone/iphone-15-sales-figu... iPhone 15 Pro Max: 23% iPhone 15 Pro: 22% iPhone 15: 14% iPhone 15 Plus: 9%

You are already spending $800 for the 16; the 16 Pro is $200 more and you get better camera, better battery life, and slightly bigger screen. It is a tempting proposition if you want the new tech. If you don't care about latest/greatest get the SE at 1/2 the price.

This is apples strategy across the whole of their product portfolio. Make a cheaper crippled base device, and a model with higher specs just within reach of that price so that most people will upgrade because 'why not?'.

If they just made the base model have half decent specs, a lot less people would upgrade to the higher end models.

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