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Re: GPT-4o

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Post by andybak »

gdb wrote: post #43
Jensson wrote: post #24

The most impressive part is that the voice uses the right feelings and tonal language during the presentation. I'm not sure how much of that was that they had tested this over and over, but it is really hard to get that right so if they didn't fake it in some way I'd say that is revolutionary.

(I work at OpenAI.) It's really how it works.

May I just say this launch was a bit of a mess?

The web page implies you can try it immediately. Initially it wasn't available.

A few hours later it was in both the web UI and the mobile app - I got a popu[ telling me that GPT-4o was available. However nothing seems to be any different. I'm not given any option to use video as an input, the app can't seem to pick up any new info from my voice.

I'm left a bit confused as to what I can do that I couldn't do before. I certainly can't seem to recreate much of the stuff from the announcement demos.

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Post by nbzso »

Another new hit from his excellency Sam the Galactic Conmaster? WoW. The future is bright, right?:)

Idiocracy in full swing, dear Marvin.

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Post by sambazi »

aussieguy1234 wrote: post #773
plaidfuji wrote: post #717

This is a very cool demo - if you dig deeper there’s a clip of them having a “blind” AI talk to another AI with live camera input to ask it to explain what it’s seeing. Then they, together, sing a song about what they’re looking at, alternating each line, and rhyming with one another . Given all of the isolated capabilities of AI, this isn’t particularly surprising, but seeing it all work together in real time is pre…

My new PC arrives tomorrow. Once I source myself two RTX 3060's I'll be an AI owner, no longer dependant on cloud APIs. Currently the bottleneck is Agents. If you want a large language model to actually do anything you need an Agent. Agents so far need a human in the loop to keep them sane. Until that problem is solved most human jobs are still safe.

> Agents so far need a human in the loop to keep them sane.

not quite sure that sanity is a business requirement

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by baq »

kkukshtel wrote: post #601
cal85 wrote: post #495

We've had voice input and voice output with computers for a long time, but it's never felt like spoken conversation. At best it's a series of separate voice notes. It feels more like texting than talking. These demos show people talking to artificial intelligence. This is new. Humans are more partial to talking than writing. When people talk to each other (in person or over low-latency audio) there's a rich metadata…

The "magic" moment really hit in this, like you're saying. Watching it happen and being like "this is a new thing". Not only does it respond in basically realtime, it concocts a _whole response_ back to you as well. It's like asking someone what they think about chairs, and then that person being able to then respond to you with a verbatim book on the encyclopedia of chairs. Insane. I'm also incredibly excited about…

Still patiently waiting for the true magic moment where I don't have to chat with the computer, I just tell it what to do and it does it without even an 'OK'.

I don't want to chat with computers to do basic things. I only want to chat with computers when the goal is to iterate on something. If the computer is too dumb to understand the request and needs to initiate iteration, I want no part.

(See also 'The Expanse' for how sci-fi imagined this properly.)

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by saxelsen »

Negitivefrags wrote: post #150

I found these videos quite hard to watch. There is a level of cringe that I found a bit unpleasant. It’s like some kind of uncanny valley of human interaction that I don’t get on nearly the same level with the text version.

The demo where they take turns singing felt like two nervous slaves trying to please their overlord who kept interrupting them and demanding more harmony.

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Post by datahack »

plaidfuji wrote: post #717

This is a very cool demo - if you dig deeper there’s a clip of them having a “blind” AI talk to another AI with live camera input to ask it to explain what it’s seeing. Then they, together, sing a song about what they’re looking at, alternating each line, and rhyming with one another . Given all of the isolated capabilities of AI, this isn’t particularly surprising, but seeing it all work together in real time is pre…

All I could think about when watching this demo was how similar capabilities will work on the battlefield. Coordinated AIs look like they will be obscenely effective.

Everything always starts as a toy.

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Post by [deleted] »

maaaaattttt wrote: post #783

Now that I see this, here is my wish (I know there are security privacy concerns but let's pretend there are not there for this wish): An app that runs on my desktop and has access to my screen(s) when I work. At any time I can ask it something about what's on the screen, it can jump in and let me know if it thinks I made a mistake (think pair programming) or a suggestion (drafting a document). It can also quickly ta…

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Post by hwbunny »

plaidfuji wrote: post #717

This is a very cool demo - if you dig deeper there’s a clip of them having a “blind” AI talk to another AI with live camera input to ask it to explain what it’s seeing. Then they, together, sing a song about what they’re looking at, alternating each line, and rhyming with one another . Given all of the isolated capabilities of AI, this isn’t particularly surprising, but seeing it all work together in real time is pre…

And people will become utterly stupid in the process.

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Post by _fw »

tonyabracadabra wrote: post #764
plaidfuji wrote: post #717

This is a very cool demo - if you dig deeper there’s a clip of them having a “blind” AI talk to another AI with live camera input to ask it to explain what it’s seeing. Then they, together, sing a song about what they’re looking at, alternating each line, and rhyming with one another . Given all of the isolated capabilities of AI, this isn’t particularly surprising, but seeing it all work together in real time is pre…

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Why are you sharing a link to a dodgy cloned site?

Re: GPT-4o

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Post by Hugsun »

ijidak wrote: post #533
Hugsun wrote: post #298

Very interesting and extremely impressive! I tried using the voice chat in their app previously and was disappointed. The big UX problem was that it didn't try to understand when I had finished speaking. English is a second language and I paused a bit too long thinking of a word and it just started responding to my obviously half spoken sentence. Trying again it just became stressful as I had to rush my words out to…

> I noticed that the AI in the demo seems to be very rambly I know this is a serious conversation, but when the presenters had to cut it off, I got flashbacks to Data in Star Trek TNG!! And 3PO in Star Wars! Human: "Shut up" Robot: "Shutting up sir" Turns out rambling AI was an accurate prediction!

That's funny and a very good point.

It also tangentially reminds me of an excellent video I re-watched recently called The Tragedy of Droids[1]. I highly recommend it. It raises interesting moral questions about the nature of droids in the star wars universe.

[1]: https://youtu.be/WD2UrB7zepo

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