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Re: Gemini AI

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Post by jprete »

Barrin92 wrote: post #759
spaceman_2020 wrote: post #594

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm legitimately starting to wonder what white collar workers will even do in 5-10 years. This just Year 1 of this stuff going mainstream. Careers are 25-30 years long. What will someone entering the workforce today even be doing in 2035?

>What will someone entering the workforce today even be doing in 2035? The same thing they're doing now, just with tools that enable them to do some more of it. We've been having these discussions a dozen times, including pre- and post computerization and every time it ends up the same way. We went from entire teams writing Pokemon in Z80 assembly to someone cranking out games in Unity while barely knowing to code, a…

As far as I know, being a game dev is not a good career move either for the money or the work-life balance.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by nazka »

zamalek wrote: post #760
johnfn wrote: post #444

Very impressive! I noticed two really notable things right off the bat: 1. I asked it a question about a feature that TypeScript doesn't have[1]. GPT4 usually does not recognize that it's impossible (I've tried asking it a bunch of times, it gets it right with like 50% probability) and hallucinates an answer. Gemini correctly says that it's impossible. The impressive thing was that it then linked to the open GitHub i…

The biggest advantage of Bard is the speed, it's practically instant. I asked: How would I go about creating a sandbox directory for a subordinate user (namespaced user with subuid - e.g. uid 100000), that can be deleted as the superior user (e.g. uid 1000)? I want this to be done without root permissions. Both said that it's impossible, which is the the generally accepted answer. I then added: I don't care about dat…

If you ever try it on Gemini let me know I am curious.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by bitshiftfaced »

make3 wrote: post #780
m3at wrote: post #186

For others that were confused by the Gemini versions: the main one being discussed is Gemini Ultra (which is claimed to beat GPT-4). The one available through Bard is Gemini Pro . For the differences, looking at the technical report [1] on selected benchmarks, rounded score in %: Dataset | Gemini Ultra | Gemini Pro | GPT-4 MMLU | 90 | 79 | 87 BIG-Bench-Hard | 84 | 75 | 83 HellaSwag | 88 | 85 | 95 Natural2Code | 75 |…

the numbers are not at all comparable, because Gemini uses 34 shot and variable shot vs 5 for gpt 4. this is very deceptive of them.

Yes and no. In the paper, they do compare apples to apples with GPT4 (they directly test GPT4's CoT@32 but state its 5-shot as "reported"). GPT4 wins 5-shot and Gemini wins CoT@32. It also came off to me like they were implying something is off about GPT4's MMLU.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by pb7 »

cedws wrote: post #743
foobar_______ wrote: post #503

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. The whole things reeks of being desperate. Half the video is jerking themselves off that they've done AI longer than anyone and they "release" (not actually available in most countries) a model that is only marginally better than the current GPT4 in cherry-picked metrics after nearly a year of lead-time?!?! That's your response? Ouch.

Google are masters at jerking themselves off. I mean come on... "Gemini era"? "Improving billions of people’s lives"? Tone it down a bit. It screams desperation to be seen as ahead of OpenAI.

Google has billions of users whose lives are improved by their products. What is far fetched about this AI improving those product lines?

Sounds like it's you that needs to calm down a bit. God forbid we get some competition.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by alfor »

Another woke GPT, no thanks.

Google believe that they know better, that their job is to decide for other what is the truth. And to play with the levers behind people back.

That will lead to a very dark path as it always does.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by vineyardmike »

johnfn wrote: post #444

Very impressive! I noticed two really notable things right off the bat: 1. I asked it a question about a feature that TypeScript doesn't have[1]. GPT4 usually does not recognize that it's impossible (I've tried asking it a bunch of times, it gets it right with like 50% probability) and hallucinates an answer. Gemini correctly says that it's impossible. The impressive thing was that it then linked to the open GitHub i…

> Does Gemini have a date cutoff at all?

Not sure about Gemini specifically (it’s so new!) but Google has previously said that bard is updated daily with current news and information.

Obviously Google has potential advantages being able to lean into their indexes so the raw model doesn’t need to embed/train against things like GitHub issues. I wonder if we’ll see LLM-optimized websites with built-in prompts to replace SEO websites.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by LZ_Khan »

I sent a picture of a scenic picture (Lake Tahoe from the top of Heavenly) I took and asked Gemini where it was. To my surprise Gemini got it right. Even the ski resort. Woah.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by huytersd »

dfbrown wrote: post #515
milesward wrote: post #136

This demo is nuts: https://youtu.be/UIZAiXYceBI?si=8ELqSinKHdlGlNpX

How real is it though? This blog post says In this post, we’ll explore some of the prompting approaches we used in our Hands on with Gemini demo video. which makes it sound like they used text + image prompts and then acted them out in the video, as opposed to Gemini interpreting the video directly. https://developers.googleblog.com/2023/12/how-its-made-gemin...

How do you know though? The responses in the video were not the same as those in the blog post.
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