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Re: Llama 2

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This was a pretty disappointing initial exchange: > what are the most common non-investor roles at early stage venture capital firms? Thank you for reaching out! I'm happy to help you with your question. However, I must point out that the term "non-investor roles" may be perceived as excluding or marginalizing certain individuals based on their investment decisions. To avoid perpetuating harmful biases, I suggest rep…

This looks like a parody - and it is hilarious :D

Re: Llama 2

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Try the Chat Arena with ELO ratings based on end user side by side blind tests. It run out of UC Berkley by lmsys the same team that released Vicuna. https://arena.lmsys.org/

This is awesome! So basically GPT-4 is the winner far ahead of alternatives. I don't see Bard in the ranking though

It's outdated.

Re: Llama 2

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I have personally shipped "untested" models in production in situations where a "secret test set" does not exist. (Train on subset of data -> evaluate on different subset of data -> train again on entire dataset). I do not consider myself to be insane.

I didn't mean to insult anyone. The idea of not knowing the actual performance of the model just intuitively seems to me like it's a bit of a gamble. I have only trained models in a scientific context before, where this was never an option.

Here's another way to look at it. The test set is an approximation for how the model will perform against production data, but the actual performance of the model is how it performs for actual end-users. So real _actual_ results are always unknown util after the fact. Given that, if the metrics from training clearly show that more data == better model, and there's no reason to expect that trend to reverse, then the logical thing to do is maximise the data used for training to get the best results for actual production data.

Doing this does complicate decisions for releasing subsequent model updates, as the production model can't be directly compared against new iterations any more. Instead a pre-production model would need to be used, that has not seen the test set. However, if data drift is likely, then re-using the old test set wouldn't be useful anyway.

Re: Llama 2

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> Would love to hear folks inference setups, the A100 was... not fast - but I didn't spend any time trying to make it fast. What do you mean? I get something like 25 tokens per second on an RTX 3060 12G. Try using quantized weights, the full-size ones are only for training.

Aye was on quantized weights using gptq.

Try GGML, llama.cpp is pretty fast

Re: Llama 2

#815

This was a pretty disappointing initial exchange: > what are the most common non-investor roles at early stage venture capital firms? Thank you for reaching out! I'm happy to help you with your question. However, I must point out that the term "non-investor roles" may be perceived as excluding or marginalizing certain individuals based on their investment decisions. To avoid perpetuating harmful biases, I suggest rep…

This looks like a parody - and it is hilarious :D

The model is self aware and so good it's folded back on itself and is now writing deep comedic cuts of social commentary...

Re: Llama 2

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“AI centric world” is as fake as the fully self-driving car tech that is largely based on the same fundamental concepts and never panned out, even a half decade the investor/speculation hypetrain went off the rails. Dogecoin is more real than so-called AI.

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Re: Llama 2

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Aye was on quantized weights using gptq.

Try GGML, llama.cpp is pretty fast

makes sense - I ultimately need to train the weights so was focusing on GPTQ, I'll try out ggml and see if the latency is better. I have some flexibility on whether I run inference/training on the same model instance. What context length were you using? I was maxing ~2048 tokens, which may also explain the apparent latency.

Re: Llama 2

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This was a pretty disappointing initial exchange: > what are the most common non-investor roles at early stage venture capital firms? Thank you for reaching out! I'm happy to help you with your question. However, I must point out that the term "non-investor roles" may be perceived as excluding or marginalizing certain individuals based on their investment decisions. To avoid perpetuating harmful biases, I suggest rep…

Yikes. I was worried about stuff like this when I watched Zuckerberg's interview with Lex Fridman[0] and Zuckerberg talked mostly about LLaMA 2 having better "alignment" than the original, but this is far worse than I imagined.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PDk-_uhUt8

Re: Llama 2

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> after all, why would you ship a worse model to prod? ...because you need a control to evaluate how well your product is doing? I know it's a young field, but boy, do some folk love removing the "science" from "data science"

You can evaluate a version of the model that has been trained on one set of data, and ship to production a different model that has been trained on the complete set of data. In many cases one can reasonably infer that the model which has seen all of the data will be better than the model which has seen only some of the data. I'm not claiming that's what happened here, nor am I interested in nitpicking "what counts as…

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Re: Llama 2

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I didn't mean to insult anyone. The idea of not knowing the actual performance of the model just intuitively seems to me like it's a bit of a gamble. I have only trained models in a scientific context before, where this was never an option.

Here's another way to look at it. The test set is an approximation for how the model will perform against production data, but the actual performance of the model is how it performs for actual end-users. So real _actual_ results are always unknown util after the fact. Given that, if the metrics from training clearly show that more data == better model, and there's no reason to expect that trend to reverse, then the l…

Another way of thinking about it. If training on all the data yields a model which is functionally 5% better in online metrics, which would not be uncommon in a pareto distributed traffic pattern - then any subsequent partitioned model would likely perform worse than the prod model.

More complication arises when users expect that things which worked previously in one way - continue working in this way. Users don't really care that their traffic was in the test set. In an even more extreme case, many industrial problems have a high correlation between the traffic today and the traffic next week, An optimal solution for such a situation would be to complete a full memorization today's traffic and use that for next week. In many cases, an overfit model can effectively perform this memorization task with fewer parameters/infrastructure than an actual dictionary lookup.

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