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Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by rabuse »

ChancyChance wrote: post #703
arzanr wrote: post #581

Everyone commenting on here about how bad things are in SF has likely rarely or never stepped into the core parts of Protrero Hill, Noe Valley, Richmond, Sunset, Glenn Park, Forest Hill etc. SF is a tale of two cities divided by natural barriers. There is a side to the city where you see almost no drugs, or homelessness. This is not a dismissal of the real issues facing the city but an acknowledgement that it is stil…

Literally every generation of suburbanites and ruralites think cities are big scary places with violence and drugs on every corner. It's just being amplified in this thread because that's what social media does.

We have literal video proof that this is the case in a lot of American cities. Are you denying this reality?

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by hintymad »

joemazerino wrote: post #361

I have commented on SF threads before regarding the violent crime. I don't think we have figured out if this was premeditated or not, but either way, SF is becoming incredibly dangerous. Progressive DA's and a neutered police force are to blame for the rise in violent crime. Many of my friends have taken their remote gigs and left SF in the last 3 years. What's the point in rolling the dice every time you walk outsid…

> Progressive DA's and a neutered police force are to blame for the rise in violent crime

There are reports that police would book a criminal, yet DA simply released them right away. I'm not sure how much police can do about it.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by ketzo »

jutrewag wrote: post #404
joemazerino wrote: post #361

I have commented on SF threads before regarding the violent crime. I don't think we have figured out if this was premeditated or not, but either way, SF is becoming incredibly dangerous. Progressive DA's and a neutered police force are to blame for the rise in violent crime. Many of my friends have taken their remote gigs and left SF in the last 3 years. What's the point in rolling the dice every time you walk outsid…

It’s really simple and I don’t understand why progressives can’t grasp this. You need to snuff out crime. There’s a reasonable way to do it without swinging across to either extreme. If the police force won’t cooperate, clean house and hire again. It’s a relatively low skilled job that is easy to hire for. Get the homeless off the street, snuff out petty crime or you’re basically dooming the progressive mandate as so…

“Police are easy to hire”

Then why is the PD of every single major American city dramatically understaffed?

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by tlear »

He was a really interesting, good guy. Getting stabbed by some filth.

Fucking shithole of a city. In the last 10 years every time I am there I can't help but wonder HOW??? How can such rich city with so much potential be turning into this?? I grew up in east Europe, in general few places in US trigger my prep for fight or flight.. SF you are having a nice conversation, walk wrong way 50meters and suddenly my heart goes to 170bpm. I started carrying a collapsible baton last time I had to stay there for business. SF is going full Detroit, 100% self inflicted.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by JumpinJack_Cash »

What people fail to mention is that SF is also the capital of white collar crime, not just regular crime.

When bravado is in the air and the climate is a free for all it permeates the whole city, not just some pocket demographics.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by joseph_grobbles »

BonoboIO wrote: post #759
dxbydt wrote: post #671

Speaking as an immigrant - Worked in SF most of last decade. Left in 2018. Crime was on a steady uptick while I was there. Once in the Bart, a young man grabbed a cellphone from the guy seated right next to me & bolted out of the train. The train started, and the cellphone owner gave chase. The Bart police arrived soon after, with guns pointed straight at the passengers. The robber was fast and jumped over the turnst…

Free iPhones for everyone so nobody would steal anymore … Hahaha. What a joke. Unbelievable. So disconnected from reality.

Do you really believe that this public discourse occurred on a public train after a theft? Do you think they had a lively debate in the commons about how to solve crime?

I'm a bit surprised people are seriously believing this. This is someone's shower thoughts six hours later when they strawmanned some ridiculous positions to caricaturize "opponents".

I will go further and say that everything the person said seems...dubious, and are claims that are unverifiable. Like, where is this low-income "suburb" (two hours from a major center...) that has no crime? As someone who grew up in a smaller town in the rust belt, I find their claim hysterical.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by subsubzero »

eertami wrote: post #771
subsubzero wrote: post #708

Its a real bummer with SF, but the problems are totally self inflicted. If the politics were of a different breed I could see it being one of the best cities to live in the US, let alone the world. Having worked there for close to a decade the stuff I have seen was really depressing. I visited my cousin who works at Ouster nearby for lunch one day and was wondering what all these white casings were littering the grou…

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SF is the most progressive city in the US let alone the world and that breed of politics is 100% to blame for it being the poorest run and one of the most crime infested cities in the US. Do you even know how much SF is spending on homeless a year? $1.1B a year[1]!!. Your argument is like saying for a drug addict to get healthy they need more hard drugs.

[1] - https://www.hoover.org/research/despite-spending-11-billion-...

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by srcreigh »

martin_a wrote: post #103

Can someone very briefly wrap this whole "SF is broken"-situation up for somebody from Europe? I only ever read that it's "because of the policies" and there are lots of rather disturbing videos about SF making its rounds on YouTube. But what exactly happened? Did they just remove all the police? Did they gave out free drugs to everybody? I'm not interested in blaming political parties, I just want to get a quick gra…

Mark Rober has a series where he builds fake packages with cameras, stink bombs, etc. Goal is to get vengeance against car thieves in SF since police do nothing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWeu2dxHRDg

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Post by squeaky-clean »

ninjagoo wrote: post #650
cheeseblubber wrote: post #529

Here are some statistics that might help the discussion: "With a crime rate of 54 per one thousand residents, San Francisco has one of the highest crime rates in America compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is one in 18." https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ca/san-francisco/crime#des... A…

So Wikipedia has a list of US Cities, sortable by crime rate, and has separate statistics for violent crime and property crime [1]. This list is based on FBI's data from 2019. By that list, sorted by the total violent crime rate from highest to lowest, SF is 37th on the list of 100 cities, NYC is 59th, Austin is 73rd. In absolute numbers, SF is 715/100k, NYC is 539/100k, Austin is 415/100k. Also, by that list, the to…

These rates have gotten a lot higher during/post covid. 2019 data is pretty out of date considering that.
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