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Is it actually anything like torture, though?

That's often not the point of analogies like this. So for the analog to be valid, the seriousness of the situation described doesn't have to be on similar levels. If you look up the definition of "analogy" on merriam-webster.com it says: "resemblance in some [my emphasis] particulars between things otherwise unlike"

Yeah, I know what an analogy is. It's a bloody stupid analogy because it's making a mountain out of a mole hill, when we all know that moles dig tunnels.

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post #78

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Based upon his build up, this will be a fig leaf/scapegoat . I don't see anything in his behaviour which would justify your "optimistic" outlook. Sure it won't degenerate in one of those gutter platforms right away but I doubt he'll be able to maintain an acceptable level as long as he's directly involved. He just doesn't make the the impression of an adult person. imho this may end up being really good for the rest…

> He just doesn't make the the impression of an adult person. No, obviously not. Ramping up his car company from roughly nothing to major global presence, kickstarting the world on electric traffic, and setting up private space rocketeering on the side. Oh, and becoming the supposedly richest person on the planet in the process. How insufferably childish of him.

But he posts memes and makes fun of people!

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> The award is only ridiculous if you think trans people shouldn't exist in public as openly trans. This is simply your skewed view and not how many people read the joke. She was named as "woman of the year" BECAUSE she was trans, not because she was/is a woman. That's the joke. USA Today itself probably doesn't care if she is or isn't a woman, the award was issued to get engagement. > I don't know why this is framed…

>This is simply your skewed view and not how many people read the joke. She was named as "woman of the year" BECAUSE she was trans, Fine, and this is "simply your skewed view". Yours is not inherently more right than mine. >Because that is how Progressives have treated the topic in general (at least publicly, privately not so much.) You completely skipped my point. Progressives have treated this topic this way becaus…

> Fine, and this is "simply your skewed view". Yours is not inherently more right than mine.

Yes, exactly, which is why banning/suspending them is wrong. A joke can hit or land based on who is hearing it. You not liking it doesn't mean it's inherently hateful.

> You completely skipped my point. Progressives have treated this topic this way because there is no compromise position.

No, Progressives treat it this way because they are scared of their base. If you talk to many in private there are serious questions that they are too scared to raise. But I'm telling you, if they don't raise them, they could politically suffer from it.

> Trans people don't need "societal buy-in" any more than any other group.

This is just factually wrong. It requires you to allow them in women's sports despite tremendous advantages, in women/men's bathrooms (probably the lesser controversial ones,) to be legally held responsible for misgendering, to chemically/hormonally alter children, etc. That is societal buy-in. That is not the same as allowing a Jewish person to practice their Sabbath, employing a black person, or allowing a gay man to get married. I can't even think of anything remotely comparable.

> This has no relevance to the issue at hand. They weren't awarding the Cis Woman of the Year Award. They were awarding the Woman of the Year Award. Trans women should be just as eligible for that as cis women. This isn't a weightlifting competition.

It is actually very relevant and the fact that you can't see that is frustratingly hilarious. It's also funny you say it's not a weight-lifting competition, when a person born a male could theoretically enter a women's weight-lifting competition and completely dominate...and it would be unquestionably supported by some people.

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> This sort of justifies the viewpoint that despite all his bluster, Elon will probably run Twitter the way a "reasonable executive" would. Not just release the hounds. He literally just had every engineer print out the last 3 months of code lol

I understand he also laid off the entire data engineering team, that news being sourced from Messrs. Ligma & Johnson, two prankster nerds who went to the vicinity of Twitter HQ and walked around carrying cardboard boxes. Definitely a story to be careful on

Yes, I saw that. The reporter behind this story says he has 4 sources and screenshots. I can't say it's 100% true but it seems much more likely than the Ligma/Johnson bit.

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post #680

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You mean they haven’t actually done anything to undermine election results?

I meant exactly what I wrote. Feel free to let me know if there is something about it you don't understand.

They did already? There was a court case when the legislatures gave themselves the power to throw out elections. It went to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court ruling lets them throw out elections.

Prior attempts by states to do this in 2020 and 2000 failed in court, or led to the winning candidate (Gore) conceding, respectively. The 2020 standards that caused the election results to be upheld no longer apply in the states that changed their laws to take advantage of the new supreme court ruling.

What am I missing?

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I am not saying I will take hypothetical action. I will take real action. But I need evidence that systemic racism exists, you need to point to something and say “that right there is a racist law/policy”. I have thus far seen no such laws or policies. And please, don’t start with a conclusion (there are only X number of PoC CEO’s or something) and then go on a witch hunt to prove your conclusion. That is not how reas…

So you went from saying that those who have experienced adversity can naturally empathize with the adversity others have faced, to now saying you do not accept that systemic racism exists? Do you see how those two statements strongly contradict one another? Anyway, if your position is genuinely that systemic racism doesn't exist, given all the information you have access to in this day, then I don't think there's any…

> Do you see how those two statements strongly contradict one another?

Nope, no contradiction at all. You can have adversity and not have systemic racism. I don’t have the foggiest clue how you can think that is a contradiction.

> people with white sounding names are 50% more likely to receive a callback for a job interview.[1]

Fair enough, but how is this remotely “systemic”? Do you really think there are company policies that promote this? Or is this individual (I.e. not systemic) biases?

Unless the company policy is to prefer the resumes with white sounding names then I don’t see how this is systemic.

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> Elon will probably run Twitter the way a "reasonable executive" would. Not just release the hounds. Isn't this his duty to shareholders as long as Twitter is (still) a publicly traded company?

Twitter is no longer a publicly traded company. Elon Musk owns it now.

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post #378
post #328

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Here's some evidence. They ruled to allow state legislatures to override voters by changing state law to allow that: https://news.yahoo.com/analysis-supreme-court-tilted-electio... and an upcoming case to watch, where they're expected to further undermine laws: https://www.npr.org/2022/06/30/1106866830/supreme-court-to-t...

> Here's some evidence. These are opinion pieces. > They ruled to allow state legislatures to override voters by changing state law to allow that No they didn’t. Nothing in the pieces linked states this. > and an upcoming case to watch, where they're expected to further undermine laws: This isn’t a meaningful sentence.

OK, if you don't believe commentators or legal analysts, then read the actual supreme court rulings and the case matter for the upcoming case. They are public record.

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post #797

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> This sort of justifies the viewpoint that despite all his bluster, Elon will probably run Twitter the way a "reasonable executive" would. Not just release the hounds. He literally just had every engineer print out the last 3 months of code lol

Source?

https://twitter.com/CaseyNewton/status/1586127052767318016

https://twitter.com/leahculver/status/1586145696163373056

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