I like smaller size phones as well. I've considered the recent Moto Razr models. But I can't get over the fear of mechanical failure due to the hinge and folding screen. I'd much rather have a viable mainline linux phone even at a larger size, but that's for another thread.
I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone
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Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone
#812Are you sure you cannot buy such a phone from Aliexpress? They have all shapes and sizes of random stuff... they surely have a small Android phone.
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#813“matching size and design of iPhone 13 Mini” So, by all accounts, the iPhone mini has been an extremely slow seller. https://www.macrumors.com/2022/04/21/iphone-13-mini-unpopula... Why would that form factor succeed in the Android space? --- I see these meme on tech sites all the time: “oh phones are too big I just want something simple”. That is a valid sentiment that I think is shared by basically no average consum…
> I know that’s simplistic and a little condescending, but then look at SUV and truck sales.
I knew the response sounded American, then this clarified it. I’d like to see the sale of phone sizes by country.
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Yes, I'm as frustrated as you are. I want a no-compromise 4" Android phone, comfortably usable with one hand. For me, the phone is a communication device for the outside, that's it. I hardly use it at home except for calls. My primary device is my laptop. I have exactly zero use cases that would benefit from a large screen, yet all of my use cases would benefit from being able to fully use it one-handed. I don't watc…
Very much the same situation for me. I'm especially interested in why Eric doesn't mention the headphone jack -- does he simply think it isn't a noteworthy feature, and assume the phone WILL have the jack? Or does he assume that bluetooth is the future and only silly luddites like us care about the jack? I hope Eric eases up on the weirdly specific requirements, like dual rear cameras, symmetrical bezels, and a punch…
I agree that the requirements should be pared down to the absolute least common denominator, but disagree that the headphone jack belongs in that category. You (and GP) surely have to recognize that at this point requiring a headphone jack is also a niche request.
Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone
#815Are you sure you cannot buy such a phone from Aliexpress? They have all shapes and sizes of random stuff... they surely have a small Android phone.
99% chance this is just going to be a whiteboxed phone of similar origin.
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iPhone mini is 3% of sale. That's the trend.
Good point, with caveats: What is the comparison of 13-non pro vs. 13 mini? When I almost bought an iPhone recently, the thing that made me hesitate to consider for so long was that the mini is not pro - I want 90/120 hz, and they made a substandard flagship and blame poor sales on size. However, if the non-pro-fat 13 has great sales, you have a point. Second, it's only iphone. I hesitated for so long to consider it…
Is it even physically possible to fit all the high-end features in a mini? The 12 mini was panned for poor battery life and they just about got that fixed in the 13, but now you want 120 Hz (which will eat away battery life), someone else in here demanded all the cameras (which will take away internal space from battery), not to mention the difficulty of heat dissipation
Re: I want an iPhone Mini-sized Android phone
#817I am in the same bucket, recently switched to an iPhone mini.
I did make a ruckus about small phones not existing. I have found 1-2 supporters of the idea within the dozens of people I complained to. Based on my small sample size I'd say 3-5% of the market would be willing to buy a small phone. A much smaller percentage would be actively looking for a small phone. I think those are optimistic numbers (sadly).
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#819Hi Eric, I'm a hardware startup guy myself (our paths have crossed) with the distinction that my own "very specific set of skills" has been honed at smartphone megacompanies and smartphone startups. OSOM, Essential, HTC, Samsung, Apple. I've designed and built a lot of phones. I'm building one now. I think this is a noble effort, I personally prefer pocketable phones too, but I think there are nigh-insurmountable hur…
> Big companies are drowning in market data. They know some people really, really want small phones. But it's a long-tail opportunity they're willfully ignoring I would argue that they don’t know what people want at all, since market data just reinforces previously held assumptions. For example if you surveyed people in 2006 what kind of phone they wanted, most consumers would probably ask for a better flip phone. It…
Last month I had to use an Essentials PH-1 phone for a day while i waited for a new phone.
It was the perfect size for me and the build quality was really nice. Unfortunately, the OS was outdate and the specs not as high. It has 4GB RAM, Snapdragon 825, 13MP camera @ 2160p and a 5.7" display.
It looked premium, it felt premium and was the perfect size. If someone could pack more punch with specs in that phone I would buy it for even $1k.
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Not intending to start a storm here. Why does the author want an Android? The iPhone mini would do the job right? I have a iPhone mini for the same reasons of size, premium feel and price. It would be cool to hear what the founder of Pebble has to say about "why Android". Has he said it anywhere else?
Article: > # Why don’t you just use an iPhone Mini? > I actually do now! I switched from Android back to iPhone in late 2021 because the Pixel 6 was too ridiculously large. This was my first iPhone since the OG iPhone. > But only 5% of all iPhones sold are Minis (roughly 10m phones per year). This means that Apple may decide to kill the Mini. For Apple, 10m phones is peanuts. But for an independent company 10m units…
I'll speak for myself, but I don't think that the iPhone Mini users that chose the iPhone Mini for it's form factor will switch to Android. Personally, I'm all-in on the Apple ecosystem. I prefer the Mini, but I would chose an iPhone 13 Pro over any Android (large or small).