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Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always found this information rather useless myself, so I don't see it as a huge deal. More often that not when I see a video with tons of dislike it's because it's been brigaded by an adversarial community and not really an indicator of the value of the content. In my experience it's more of a "controversial opinion" indicator than a "bad video" indicator. >There's only been a handful of videos out of hundreds tha…

> brigaded by adversial community Not necessarily. There are other cases where consumers could use dislike as form of brand boycott

Isn't that similar because the dislike value isn't related to the specific video but a person's opinion of the brand.

For example if you wanted to watch a video on how to setup WSL 2 on Windows 10 and you see one by Microsoft has 100000 dislikes however it's amazing video that doesn't help you.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#814
YouTube used to have 5 star ratings, they got rid of that in 2010 [1]. If stars and dislikes are so bad, why do they have them in the Play Store. I wonder if Trip Advisor and Yelp are next with only likes.

[1] - https://blog.youtube/news-and-events/five-stars-dominate-rat...

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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post #719

> Clearly a flawed conclusion. For the result of their experiment they deduced what they wanted it to say. Because we can easily say that the effect is not "dislike attacking" but other effects: - shy people more afraid to give their opinion not knowing that others have done the same. - the feature feeling useless, as even if you dislike, you might thing that you click will worth nothing as no one will see it. Imagin…

I suspect their dataset was direct link dislikes. I.e. people who arrived at YouTube from another site at a specific video who dislike the video. That's the characteristic of a coordinated dislike campaign. > the feature feeling useless, as even if you dislike, you might thing that you click will worth nothing as no one will see it That was exactly the point. They didn't want the attack mobs seeing the fruits of thei…

I honestly don't see a problem. If someone truly dislikes a video, they put in effort instead of encouraging a mob mentality by a high number of dislikes

Maybe Youtube can somehow incorporate the dislikes into "Likely to enjoy" score similar to how its set up on Google maps. It's pretty accurate from my experience.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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post #800

This seems one sided. Why not hide the “like” count too and make both like and dislike counts visible only to the creators while using the individual action of each viewer for recommendations? I don’t understand why a dislike brigade could be harmful but a like brigade couldn’t be (like propaganda and/or misinformation). They seem to have considered only the impact on creators, who are a small percentage of the popul…

Exactly. Hiding the like + dislike count would actually have an interesting impact on the experience, where you can choose to like/dislike based on your own opinion only. The result will be more relevant for algorithms and more meaningful for creators who will receive honest feedback.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#817

> Clearly a flawed conclusion. For the result of their experiment they deduced what they wanted it to say. Because we can easily say that the effect is not "dislike attacking" but other effects: - shy people more afraid to give their opinion not knowing that others have done the same. - the feature feeling useless, as even if you dislike, you might thing that you click will worth nothing as no one will see it. Imagin…

Content creators are also their users.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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post #776

> Clearly a flawed conclusion. For the result of their experiment they deduced what they wanted it to say. Because we can easily say that the effect is not "dislike attacking" but other effects: - shy people more afraid to give their opinion not knowing that others have done the same. - the feature feeling useless, as even if you dislike, you might thing that you click will worth nothing as no one will see it. Imagin…

Yes, the conclusion makes no sense. "We removed the dislike button. This resulted in a reduction in dislikes, people are happier."

That’s not what they did.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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post #776

> Clearly a flawed conclusion. For the result of their experiment they deduced what they wanted it to say. Because we can easily say that the effect is not "dislike attacking" but other effects: - shy people more afraid to give their opinion not knowing that others have done the same. - the feature feeling useless, as even if you dislike, you might thing that you click will worth nothing as no one will see it. Imagin…

Yes, the conclusion makes no sense. "We removed the dislike button. This resulted in a reduction in dislikes, people are happier."

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Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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> We’ve also heard directly from smaller creators, and those just getting started with their YouTube channel, that they are unfairly targeted by dislike attacks. ah yes, google looking out for the little folks... someday, a technical solution like not allowing downvotes until a channel gets so many views or subscribers may be feasible, but until then, this will have to suffice

Why someday? This is a simple solution.
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