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At this point I'm confident I don't want there to be "a metaverse" at all, because under our current social and cultural systems, I am confident it will be very very bad no matter who owns it.
The internet exists under our current systems and, although there are parts of it that suck, it’s dope
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If what they're doing now is any indication, I don't think they'll succeed with it anyway. They've got almost zero credibility with anyone under 30. Their existing prototypes are outrageously embarrassing. I'm the kind of person that has a hard time watching The Office because I feel second-hand embarrassment, and I can barely make it a minute in to any of their VR demos. They're so uncanny, awkward, and embarrassing…
Are you sure you aren't living in a techie bubble? Oculus consistently tops the best selling headsets list at amazon cnet, PCMag, etc.. The only non-developers I know with headsets all have Oculus or more rarely PSVR. Maybe they aren't cutting edge, but everyday people can't afford cutting edge anyway. They burned a lot of developer cred. by going back on the promise not to require Facebook login with Oculus, but the…
The Oculus is great, but the way it's actually used today (games/social VR chat mostly) is still pretty niche.
Facebook is really pushing this new metaverse use case that blends VR with work/meetings/etc. I personally think it's a non-starter, they seem to be trying extremely hard to manufacture a trend, rather than capitalizing on an existing one.
But I've been completely wrong about Facebook twice before, so what do I know.
If there is going to be a metaverse, I'm not sure I want Facebook to own it. It's like a bad sci-fi pulp story. Given their investment and research, I wonder if they should open it all up (even if contradictory to short-term gains in ad revenue) so it has a chance to grow? Federate it a bit more than they are comfortable with, to at least give it a chance. I could see this flubbing out hard otherwise. I'm personally…
every hn top thread about fb says "we don't want fb to do this" or "fb is evil" whether you agree or disagree, the more interesting question is the details behind what Meta could build the answer is not federation. federation doesn't scale.
No, going back to your original premise the only thing 'interesting' for me about Facebook is how dismally awful the company is and how nakedly sociopathic Zuckerberg is.
If there is going to be a metaverse, I'm not sure I want Facebook to own it. It's like a bad sci-fi pulp story. Given their investment and research, I wonder if they should open it all up (even if contradictory to short-term gains in ad revenue) so it has a chance to grow? Federate it a bit more than they are comfortable with, to at least give it a chance. I could see this flubbing out hard otherwise. I'm personally…
"If you can't change the product, change the packaging."
Other interesting things said during the keynote: "and frankly, as we've heard your feedback more broadly, we're working on making it so you can log into Quest with an account other than your personal Facebook account. We're starting to test support for work accounts soon, and we're working on making a broader shift here within the next year. I know this is a big deal for a lot of people. Not everyone wants their soc…
Sounds nice, doesn't it? However i believe they very recently starting requiring a validated dev account (i.e. with phone number) for devs to continue to sideload to their Oculus Quest, right?
Other interesting things said during the keynote: "and frankly, as we've heard your feedback more broadly, we're working on making it so you can log into Quest with an account other than your personal Facebook account. We're starting to test support for work accounts soon, and we're working on making a broader shift here within the next year. I know this is a big deal for a lot of people. Not everyone wants their soc…
Does facebook still have a real-name policy? interacting with people in the metaverse with my real name is the last thing I want (we all saw ready player one, no? does zuck understand the importance of anonymity?)
That said there are privacy controls. You interact with other Oculus users through a customizable username. And your Oculus activity can be set to be shown to "Only me" (or Oculus friends, or FB friends, or public).
But FB themselves are obviously still collecting all the data they can.
Other interesting things said during the keynote: "and frankly, as we've heard your feedback more broadly, we're working on making it so you can log into Quest with an account other than your personal Facebook account. We're starting to test support for work accounts soon, and we're working on making a broader shift here within the next year. I know this is a big deal for a lot of people. Not everyone wants their soc…
> we're working on making it so you can log into Quest with an account other than your personal Facebook account How much work does that take? > I've come to believe that the lack of choice and high fees are stifling innovation, stopping people from building new things A shot at competitors' app stores.
Especially since the original Quest didn't require a Facebook account. It required a Quest account, but it didn't have to be explicitly linked to Facebook. (It's also one reason why I still use my original Quest and haven't gotten the updated model).
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Yeah but his "true self" isn't exactly something 99.99% of people enjoy. He's a robotic tool. Looks to me like he signed up for a "how to appear more human 101" course and now gesticulates with his hands non-stop.
Musk isn't a great rhetorician, and many people don't like his personality either. But some like him nonetheless, they empathize with him and see beyond that, because they see some of the drives and desires behind the unusual facade. I'm sure Zuckerberg signed up for such courses, but I don't think it's comfortable for him, or his audience either. Ignorance is bliss, forcing oneself to be hyperaware of ones own appea…
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> the market has repeatedly shown there isn't much demand for persistent virtual worlds I don't know if you have a more narrow view of this idea or specifically mean VR/AR, but that just sounds like what massively multiplayer online (MMO) games such as Ultima Online, Everquest, and World of Warcraft are. I think Roblox is even a broader use case, though I am fairly unfamiliar with that. MMOs have been very viable fro…
> MMOs have been very viable from both a business Really? Everything that's not named World of Warcraft seems to die out, usually in less than a year. It's a genre that's been a notorious recipe for failure for most companies not named Blizzard.
MMOs aren't eating the world like in 2005, but they're a solidly-established genre that looks here to stay.
[0] https://www.statista.com/statistics/276601/number-of-world-o...
[1] https://kotaku.com/wow-disappointment-plus-twitch-start-mass...
[2] https://www.ign.com/articles/2015/06/05/meet-the-man-who-red...
[3] https://tech4gamers.com/amazon-mmo-new-world-registered-a-pe...
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There's a concept I find really useful: Acquired Situational Narcissism. If somebody spends enough time in an environment where everything is about them, they can easily come to believe everything is about them. Another thing I think is at play is people confusing luck with genius. Zuckerberg is clearly smart, but Facebook was also a right-time, right-place thing. As FaceMash and Facebook showed, he understood his au…
I'm trying to word this kindly, but I think you should instead look at the concept of "Parasocial Relationships" if you think it's appropriate to diagnose Mark Zuckerberg with Acquired Situational Narcissism. You do not know him, you have not met him and it does not make sense to try to diagnose a public figure based on what you've been presented by either his own press releases or media coverage of him. You and the…
What I said was that it's a concept I find useful. Whether a trained professional who was given the necessary access to diagnose him is beside the point. Indeed, any qualified professional who did examine and diagnose him couldn't talk about it like this, so it seems bizarre to me you have mistaken an internet forum comment for some sort of ironclad medical claim.
And I find the concept useful and relevant here because it helps make clear how the rarefied world billionaires live in can over time distort cognition whether or not it crosses the line into an actual disorder.