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Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by lostmsu »

BoorishBears wrote: post #807
lostmsu wrote: post #802

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This sounds worse all the way round. 1. It is a less general solution to a relatively common problem so less beautiful. 2. It probably does not work if your link is a deep link into another app, e.g. Netflix. Especially if that another app can in turn link elsewhere, e.g. IMDB 3. My default browser on Android is Firefox, cause I like my uBlock Origin.

1. What? How is a fleshed out API dedicated to presenting websites "less general"? 2. Are you talking about Custom Tabs or Safari Services? Because Safari Services handles deep links fine... 3. Custom tabs work with Firefox if enabled in Settings I mean Custom Tabs, like most of Google's efforts on Android start, is a half-baked concept. And like most of Google's efforts on Android, there is a chance that they will a…

I am talking about iOS behavior without the back button.

1. showSafariView(), that has Done button, that returns back to you, which is less general than show(appView), that has Back button, that works for any appView, system or not.

2. I do not know iOS. You tell me what the experience would be. On Android in RSS I click a Netflix deeplink, that sends me to the show in Netflix app. There I click IMDB link, that opens IMDB app for the show. After checking out reviews I click Back, that brings me back to the show view in Netflix, I check "Add to Watchlist" here, then Back again, and I am back in my RSS reader. My guess is that Done functionality you mentioned before would stop working after encountering the very first deep link to Netflix, which my guess is will either open Netflix website in Safari popup (bad, because not the app) or open Netflix the app (but that won't have the Done button).

3. Good to know.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by KOTYAR »

DCKing wrote: post #205
meetups323 wrote: post #23

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Do you think Google doesn't scan photos uploaded to its cloud services for CSAM?

I'm aware of Google's scanning. I'm even inclined to support them doing that. What I like about the standard Google Photos/Dropbox/OneDrive approach is that it's no secret you upload your photos to their computers, where they process them. They process them for useful features, and they process them to catch child abuse. But I understand clearly I upload it from my device to another device, and that other device can…

Fairphone 4 has 5 years of updates; and it's much more ethical and better for earth to buy phone made with Fairtrade, than another Pixel. You are guaranteed there were no forced or child labour put into your phone too.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by Thorrez »

saiya-jin wrote: post #645
Thorrez wrote: post #593

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There are tons of academic researchers, jailbreakers, privacy watchdogs, journalists, government organizations, exploit developers, tinkerers, and hackers of all kinds who would go wild if they found Apple doing malicious stuff on iPhones. Now if Apple developed a special update that they sent to only a few choice targets, that might be able to go under the radar.

That can be said about any manufacturer of any electronics, and yet here we are in 2021 when practically all manufacturers have been caught doing highly immoral things in their devices, Apple notwithstanding. You can wrap intrusions in form of 'think about the kids' (what is used here), think about security/terrorism and so on. This playbook has been used ad nausea, isn't it about time to learn?

> have been caught

That was my point: they get caught if/when they try.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by kalleboo »

Sodman wrote: post #224

I hate the trend that the "pro" versions of all these flagship phones need to be an XL Phablet monstrosity. Human hands haven't gotten any bigger. I have owned most of the Nexus & Pixel phones throughout the years. After having the Nexus 6 as my daily driver for 2 years, I have always opted for the smaller option ever since. I would totally pay flagship prices for a regular ~5.5-6" phone with flagship specs, and I'm…

Smaller phones with decent specs like the Xperia Compact range and the iPhone mini series have not sold well, so there does not seem to be much of a market for it. You may very well be the only one.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by arendtio »

soylentnewsorg wrote: post #780
arendtio wrote: post #695

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Thank you for looking up that ROM, as I might want to try it out. However, you are also proving my point, even that ROM with Android 11 is still running the old 3.0.101 Linux kernel. You can see it in the video at the last row: https://youtu.be/K_i29pczfRA?t=10 So congratulations to the guy who made it possible to run Android 11 with that ancient Linux kernel, even when Android officially doesn't support it. And to i…

https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/kernel-7-x-i9300-hybrid.3... backported 4.2, which includes some of the 4.3 changes as well. supports lineage. 4.1 is a version google supports till 2024, so I'm assuming 4.2/4.3 is going to be even later. So, you got a phone from 2011 that's going to run a modern kernel and latest android till after 2024. > And to illustrate what I mean by ancient yes. I would love to see an iphone…

Given that the kernel still identifies as 3.0.101, my guess is that they just backported some features from 4.x and applied them to the ancient kernel ;-) I am not so sure that qualifies as a 4.1 in terms of Android support.

I think the discussion about which devices live longer is simple to answer: Apple (iPhone) and Google (Nexus/Pixel) do probably the best job of supporting their devices for a while from a manufacturers point of view (in comparison to Samsung, Xiaomi, LG, Huawei, Sony, etc.). However, if you want to spend some time and flash alternative ROMs yourself you are better off with Android due to the large modder community, but it also depends a bit on the device you bought.

My biggest issue on the other hand, is that if the manufacturers would also open source the drivers, they could be included in the Linux kernel and we would not have this discussions, because one could simply use an up-to-date kernel as you can with every PC.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by tonoto »

DCKing wrote: post #20

Thanks Google. Think I’ll be buying this. I want as little to do with Google’s services as possible in my life, but they really deserve credits for making a modern usable smartphone that is reasonably open. There is just one single feature I will be buying this for - the 5 years of software updates. While good image processing is definitely a pro, all of these software you’re presenting features I really don’t give a…

Your text could basically be mine.

I'm utterly tired of Google's attitude and how little they really care about their customers. They have really cool tech and solutions, but their total neglectance of the individual but somewhat high attention of activists have made my view of a #1 company down the slope, I guess I would at one point have to try applying for some position to hopefully change my mind on that point.

I have a love/hate relationship regarding their Android ecosystem and lack of possibilites to keep an updated phone up to date more than 1-2 years.. so after many years listening to the Apple ambassadors among (okay, mostly non-tech) friends and finally went all-in on the Apple way of doing stuff, bought their "Pro"-version of wireless headset, their smart watch series 7 and their "Pro"-version smartphone series 12 (supplied from my work).

I feel totally claustrophobic about the lack of options and what Apple enforces. Chrome, Firefox, Opera, Safari, switching doesn't matter.. everything is Safari/Webkit engine, no firefox extensions.

Control volume of an app/media - no way, everything should have the same volume.. so my phone remains muted 24/7 and I hope important stuff vibrates on the watch (which is of course also muted as I cannot clearly select what notifications should sound or not).

If it weren't for my old android phone no longer receiveing updates I would switch back to my now three year old phone, at least that one let me unlock my screen with my fingers.. The Apple way is more.. if I, in the middle of the night, want to change track on my Bose Sleepbuds - I cannot do it unless I widely open my eyes and stare on the Apple camera so I am wide awake.

But an Android with 5 year lifespan.. then it starts getting interesting again.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by tonoto »

tonoto wrote: post #816
DCKing wrote: post #20

Thanks Google. Think I’ll be buying this. I want as little to do with Google’s services as possible in my life, but they really deserve credits for making a modern usable smartphone that is reasonably open. There is just one single feature I will be buying this for - the 5 years of software updates. While good image processing is definitely a pro, all of these software you’re presenting features I really don’t give a…

Your text could basically be mine. I'm utterly tired of Google's attitude and how little they really care about their customers. They have really cool tech and solutions, but their total neglectance of the individual but somewhat high attention of activists have made my view of a #1 company down the slope, I guess I would at one point have to try applying for some position to hopefully change my mind on that point. I…

... no Google Pixels for Sweden so no, apparently not for me.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by llampx »

sedawk wrote: post #784
llampx wrote: post #719

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The optics of that were absolutely terrible. They could have announced it in WWDC and made people aware of it. Instead they raised a shitstorm for no good reason.

Good intent or not, the management execution of it was completely botched. They could have even come out on top by projecting that they care about older devices' usability, if they had announced the feature; it was a no brainier and PR/marketing person worth their salt would tell that. Which makes me question the bit: "good intent on their part" :-|

Yup, planned obsolescence is real and a part of every megacap's strategy.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by pja »

n8cpdx wrote: post #765
pja wrote: post #668

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My Pixel 4a opens Firefox in ~ a second from a cold start. I’d have to film it to get an accurate figure, but it’s definitely not multiple seconds. Maybe they’re opening a very Javascript heavy homepage (and what site isn’t Javascript heavy in the modern ad-laden world?) and is including the download & render time in that measurement?

Test was closed all apps, launched Firefox, and waited for it to complete loading news.ycombinator.com. iPhone and pixel were on the same network. Just showing the app filling the viewport isn’t fair because iOS and android handle splash screens differently. All of my side-by-side comparisons are waiting until the initial load completes. I am running grapheneOS, so slightly different, and you might say that’s unfair.…

Well, you’re not exactly comparing like to like then, are you? Graphene OS is optimised for other things than raw speed.

Fwiw, I’ve just filmed my 4a at 60Hz & imported the video in a non-linear editor & it takes 2.1s to go from a tap on the icon to displaying the HN homepage.

It takes 0.7s for curl to load the HN homepage (compression on, but ignoring CSS & images) on the same network.

Re: Google Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro

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Post by smt88 »

dexterdog wrote: post #791
smt88 wrote: post #288

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Any random one, just as it's possible to flip a coin and get heads a few times in a row.

Except we're talking about over 20 pictures. Do you know how often you'll get heads 20 times in a row? I'll give you a hint, it's in the neighborhood of 1 in 2 million.

As others have said, the large group of pictures of non-white people is about a specific feature: a camera that does a better job of capturing darker skin tones. So we can ignore those.

The other pictures I see are:

- White woman

- Asian man

- White(?) man (the guy with a man-bun who's jumping)

- White(?) man looking at mountains (his hand looks beige, so he could be any lighter-skinned race)

- Black woman

- Black man/woman

- White man/woman

- Asian family

- Asian man/woman and Black woman

- children that are too small to see

- Asian woman

- Asian woman

That's 20 people, 15 of whom seem to have an identifiable race. Of those 15, 3 are White, which is 20%.

The US is ~60% White and humanity is ~15% White.

So what exactly are you complaining about? In the grand universe of marketing pictures, White people have been dramatically overrepresented. Did you complain about that in the past?

I think they will survive being slightly underrepresented this time.

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