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Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Post by slcjordan »

lalaland1125 wrote: post #492
Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #386

Unpopular opinion: it is much better to have a leader hated by the media and who's every move is scrutinized by the press than to have a leader cowtowed by the press and given a free pass on anything. How do I know? I'm from Russia. Authoritatism begins with tight control of news sources.

This comment is really weird. There is a good reason why the media publishes more negative articles about some presidents and fewer on others; some presidents are legitimately better or worse than others.

I thought it was a good comment. I don't know why the left fears a legitimately impartial press instead of one that leaks debate questions to the Democratic candidate.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Post by convery »

A4ET8a8uTh0 wrote: post #118

Youtube et al can do what they want, but.. tech has gambled its entire good will on an impossible fight basically guaranteeing further stratification and divide. It is a bad move. It already backfired hard once during Hunter coverage, but this will only make it worse.

Careful there comrade, the Hunter leaks never happened. If it did then you'd seen it on Twitter and Youtube, same as for the CIA 'whistleblower' and anything questionable around "the most secure election in history".

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Post by wtallis »

hartator wrote: post #730

From the article II of the constitution: > Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector. Governors have outstepped th…

> Governors have outstepped their authority by allowing mail-in ballots which changes election rules.

Don't most states have laws on the books that delegate much of the authority of administering elections to their respective executive branches?

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Post by lukev »

I'm glad that the HN consensus is against government censorship.

I also really wish we collectively put more effort into solving the underlying problem of mass disinformation in the internet age. It's a real problem, and while ham-fisted censorship isn't the right solution, clearly _some_ solution is necessary.

Working on how to solve the problem without censorship is more likely to lead to a successful outcome, and is also more suited to technologist's capabilities than just yelling "censorship!" as if the disinformation problem is just going to go away on it's own. It's not.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Post by AHappyCamper »

This is a gross violation of the right to free speech. Youtube is no longer just a private company. They're more of a public square where masses of people from all over the world communicate ideas. Now Youtube is stating that many of those ideas are not allowed. This is a fascist action by nature. Big Tech needs to be regulated if they are going to be so blatantly political and partisan.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Post by rantwasp »

tw600040 wrote: post #745

So, if China censors something that's censorship and if Youtube and Twitter does it (with the blessing of the Govt) , it's to protect the people from conspiracies..Got it..

nope. if youtube was the only way to post/watch video online AND it would be owned by the government this argument would maybe make sense.

but youtube is not owned by the govt. vote with your wallet and make them irrelevant if you disagree with what they are doing.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Post by blhack »

To highlight to you how absolutely insane this move is by google:

When the Hunter Biden story broke, it seemed as though every social media company, nearly in tandem, worked to censor it in the name of "stopping the spread of misinformation".

Today: it was announced that there is a federal criminal investigation into Hunter Biden's business dealings in China. (https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/09/politics/hunter-biden-tax-inv...)

These people are not, and should NEVER be the arbiters of truth. They are ideologically driven, obviously, since they are human.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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Post by JamisonM »

anonytrary wrote: post #757

I just don't get this. Why does Google have to be the censorship police here? Just let people post what they want (minus graphic and illegal content) and make their own mistakes and their own learnings. Google is going down a rabbit hole full of worms. Posting conspiracy theories about election fraud is just people exercising their free speech. Google is a private platform, so they can censor whatever they want, but…

> it's not like Google is going to get in

> trouble for allowing people to post about

> conspiracy theories

Actually it is exactly like that, they see lost revenue coming if they get tagged as the go-to place for misinformation on this topic. They may already be seeing advertisers complaining that no matter how much they try to screen they are still getting complaints of their ads showing up in prerolls for conspiracy videos. So they are making a public show of letting everyone know that they don't want to be in that business and they are doing all they can to stay out of it.

If they will do all they can or not, who knows? It is not like they have done all that much about QAnon.

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