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Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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Post by thewebcount »

ascagnel_ wrote: post #468
jiggawatts wrote: post #247

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I just got one today. It's so much better than the "Smart" Samsung TV it is plugged into that it's not even funny. The remote control has touch. I can use my phone to type text input. It's fast . It's elegant and slick. It has no ads. It has options that I care about. It doesn't waste my time with options I don't care about. The Samsung TV on the other hand was a flagship model. Top of the line. Best of the best. Jus…

> It has no ads. I have a bunch of aTVs, and while they’re the best boxes I’ve used, there’s definitely some ads baked in, and in prominent placements. - The TV app started out as a directory + recommendation engine for services you had “connected” to the app; it’s turned into a series of pitches for Apple TV+ and Apple’s “Channels” feature. These placements are below-the-fold, but the default behavior has the “TV” b…

You can turn those off in the System Prefs (at least the above-the-fold ones). It's glorious!

Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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Post by logicallee »

phone8675309 wrote: post #354
logicallee wrote: post #157

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Let's play a hypothetical game. Your TV attempts to literally control your life. And is ultra HD and really cheap. But you have to keep its front facing camera uncovered or it blares an alarm saying that its front camera is covered. The alarm also activates, but more quietly, if it loses its internet connection. Finally, there is a 30 second "sponsorship punishment" if it sees you have brought a product competing wit…

Reminds me of a less ridiculous version of this: https://i.imgur.com/dgGvgKF.png

Interesting link. But what I have written is no less ridiculous!

On what grounds would a punishment timer be illegal?

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Post by TeMPOraL »

shuntress wrote: post #789
zanderz wrote: post #725

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I worked on a very popular free desktop product (BitTorrent/uTorrent) when a major revenue stream was the bundling of crapware in the install path, depending on people clicking the dialogs without reading them. I remember an executive announcing in a meeting that "search engine replacement" (reconfiguring your browser and/or system to a shadier alternative that made us money) was viable because the telemetry data sho…

There is a sizable middle ground between "basic intuition" and "black art". I think anyone with some experience in that type of software would intuitively understand the negative user experience described here. Seems like a pretty straightforward case of the classic "Unless their salary depends on not understanding" rather than some opaque wall of unknowable unpredictable consequences.

Yeah, the sizable middle ground is I believe what props up most of the adtech industry. The sizable middle ground is occupied by people with minimum understanding of statistics, who bullshit themselves and each other with data - but as long as nobody can obviously tell they're wasting money, they're all happy and the money keeps flowing.

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Post by pixxel »

moonshinefe wrote: post #745
pixxel wrote: post #404

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Re. point 3. Have you streamed yet or it’s just an option right now? Something I’m considering but I’ve not looked into. Wondering about lag, and if I have to run upstairs to my pc to start games etc.

Can only speak for Steam's streaming here, but your mileage will probably vary. Your system needs to be fairly beefy (you will get a bit of a performance hit from streaming games). I run a geforce 1060 and it'll stream any new games at 1080p / 60fps but I'd go beefier for 2K/4K streaming. I'm still on a dumb 1080p TV so that'll be more important if your TV is >1080p. Biggest obstacle here was the wifi in this house i…

Thoroughly helpful, thank you kindly. Bookmarked.

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Post by TeMPOraL »

LordDragonfang wrote: post #765
hinkley wrote: post #689

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If you have cats, the 'proper way' to hang the TP is the opposite way of what you absolutists think is the One True Way. I'm starting to suspect that the loudest voices are cats who have either learned to type or to pay for lobbyists, trying to push your feline agenda on the rest of us.

Have had two generations of cats in our house, and always the toilet paper the proper way. Never had an issue. On the other hand, we have to keep the toilet seat down or they'll try to drink toilet water.

Cats are the devil, and I have reasons to believe they've recently entered into an alliance with the human infant community.

I begun suspecting that one day when my wife was preparing dinner. Soon after she took the meat from the fridge to work on it, our baby started crying and making noise for absolutely no reason. My wife immediately dropped everything and went to investigate, and the cat used this opportunity to attempt to steal our dinner meat.

Ever since, I've been noticing many more cases where the baby and the cat are either simultaneously attempting to do things they're not allowed to, or the baby starts distracting us while the cat goes out to carry out some mischief. It's all coordinated too well to be happenstance.

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Post by Kipters »

moonshinefe wrote: post #745
pixxel wrote: post #404

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Re. point 3. Have you streamed yet or it’s just an option right now? Something I’m considering but I’ve not looked into. Wondering about lag, and if I have to run upstairs to my pc to start games etc.

Can only speak for Steam's streaming here, but your mileage will probably vary. Your system needs to be fairly beefy (you will get a bit of a performance hit from streaming games). I run a geforce 1060 and it'll stream any new games at 1080p / 60fps but I'd go beefier for 2K/4K streaming. I'm still on a dumb 1080p TV so that'll be more important if your TV is >1080p. Biggest obstacle here was the wifi in this house i…

> but I'm guessing shield has the same limitation

You can launch the games directly from the Shield if they appear in GeForce Now on your PC. They usually show up automatically, the only issue being UWP games (like Hellblade I mentioned early), the workaround there is to create a normal shortcut to the game and add that to GeForce, manually.

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Post by TeMPOraL »

dragonwriter wrote: post #762
at-fates-hands wrote: post #417

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There are a ton of dark patterns in web design about this. - same color background - in the wrong corner (users expect the "X" in the upper right hand corner). I've seen the "X" in the wrong corner and some other icon in the right hand corner. People reflexive will click in the upper right hand corner and open the ad by mistake - I've seen where you have to click on text instead of the "X", clicking on the "X" just o…

> 1-2 pixel "X" An x requires at least 3×3 pixels.

Not if it's rendered on subpixels :).

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Post by leokennis »

deanclatworthy wrote: post #793
leokennis wrote: post #782

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For lazier or less technically inclined people: https://NextDNS.io . One click and no more ads: https://kennis.cc/public_uploads/d22bcaaf.jpeg

Where exactly can you choose this through the desktop ui?

It’s in the Privacy tab below the blacklists.

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Post by dvtrn »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #815
LordDragonfang wrote: post #765

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Have had two generations of cats in our house, and always the toilet paper the proper way. Never had an issue. On the other hand, we have to keep the toilet seat down or they'll try to drink toilet water.

Cats are the devil, and I have reasons to believe they've recently entered into an alliance with the human infant community. I begun suspecting that one day when my wife was preparing dinner. Soon after she took the meat from the fridge to work on it, our baby started crying and making noise for absolutely no reason. My wife immediately dropped everything and went to investigate, and the cat used this opportunity to…

My friend had a pug like this once. Dog was as old as father time. Needed help making it outside to relieve himself before he finally left us. But I SWEAR that dog moved like greased lightning if you left a plate on the table to go check on the kid, as he'd make it from one side of the living room to another in the time it took you to take three steps and check in on the other room, hop up on a chair and your dinner very rapidly became his dinner.
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