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Microsoft acquires Github

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Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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I can guess this will happen soon when working with Azure and found that Microsoft documents had been stored on Github one year ago. I think this is a great deal to push Azure close to the developers and compete with Amazon.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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> We are committed to being stewards of the GitHub community, which will retain its developer-first ethos, operate independently and remain an open > Finally, we will bring Microsoft’s developer tools and services to new audiences. Which one is it ? Those statements are just contradictory . It's obvious that they will bring all their stuff into Github as it has become a central piece for MS Engineers and has become s…

I don't think these are contradictory. Even if you interpret the second one as "new buttons to advertise Microsoft products", it doesn't damage a developer-first stance or independent operation. Moreover, GitHub has already partnered with dozens of other companies for its Education program for instance [0]. This already compromises independent operation, and displays ads to thousands of students, "whether or not they…

You are not getting the point.

MS will integrate Github with MS Ecosystem ( Azure , .NET , VSTS etc.. ) as described in their slides.

From this point there is two possibility

A - They open every single new API they use as well as UI/UX API so other providers can integrate themself to Github

B - They don't open (or partially) those new API and Azure/MS Ecosystem will be the de facto providers for every single stuff that is possible in github. You will end up with a "Open in [Insert Microsoft Products]" buttons and you won't be able to change that , third party providers won't be able to appear here as well. Github would have never done in the first place because they were independant , now every single stuff they do will have to be linked one way or another to MS.

Watch the slides , everything is very well described. https://view.officeapps.live.com/op/view.aspx?src=https://c....

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> The NSA is not god, they can't break 2048-bit TLS encryption no matter how many computers they have. 2048 bit TLS encryption? You mean 2048 bit RSA encryption? Also what source do you have that says the NSA can not crack a 2048 bit RSA key? Last I checked that info was non public and there is no definitive, credible source saying whether they can or can not crack 2048 RSA keys.

Yes I meant RSA key, sorry. My source is that 2^2048 is an enormous number and the time estimate for a desktop computer to crack it is in the quadrillions of years. Yes, I know the NSA has higher computing power than a desktop computer.

Don't need 2^2048 to crack RSA 2048. There's a saying "every time a grad student looks at rsa the recommended key length increases."

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Telemetry and analytics is a spyware. Let me give you an example. Let's say that Windows collects information on which applications were run and how much time they were used. Now let's say there is a competitor to Microsoft that uses Windows with telemetry option. Even if the data is anonymous, Microsoft can filter it by range of competitor's IP addresses. Then by stuyding the list of used applications they can learn…

You do realize that by posting that link, you contradicted yourself? How many Microsoft be spying on you if they write articles detailing what data is collected? If you don't like data collection, then don't use Windows 10. Plenty of Microsoft tools work on macOS and Linux. But don't accuse them of spying on the user when they have made efforts to be transparent about it.

"Data collection" is implemeted not only in Windows 10, but also is backported up to Windows 7. So basically it is now in every supported and regularly updated Windows installation.

Also I remember that detailed articles about "data collection" appeared only after it was shipped and caused some negative reaction. While publishing an article is a good idea, it is unlikely that everyone will read it. A better idea would be to display a popup for Windows users saying something like "Hi there! We are going to look what programs you are running and what else do you do at your computer to improve your experience. Hope you are fine with that.".

Technically it might be not a spyware, but if the user doesn't realize that their actions are being tracked, it still would look like a spyware to them. Or should we better call it a "trojan" software? A definition from Wikipedia says "In computing, a Trojan horse, or Trojan, is any malicious computer program which misleads users of its true intent." and Windows telemetry program matches that definition.

For example, in an article about "basic" telemetry [1] they mention that full command line of an application can be recorded, potentially including any private data and passwords.

[1] https://docs.microsoft.com/ru-ru/windows/privacy/basic-level...

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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I'd believe them if they open sourced Windows. They could still keep their web platforms (Office365, Azure, etc.) closed but it would be a huge statement to open up Windows 10. (Never going to happen, not just for philosophical reasons, but I'm sure legal reasons too)

I think the biggest issue would be the audit. Recall that NT started out as part of OS/2 which is owned by IBM. I suspect that Edge/IE has similar issues, because it was evolved from NCSA Mosaic it probably has legal issues preventing it from being open sourced. I know for a fact that the ZIP component of the windows shell would be an issue as that is definitely licensed to Microsoft instead of being owned by.

Open what they can and keep binary blobs of stuff they can’t?

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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To be more precise, this is what Steve Ballmer said back in 2001: > [...] Linux is a cancer that attaches itself in an intellectual property sense to everything it touches. That's the way that the license works. https://web.archive.org/web/20011108013601/http://www.suntim...

But in fact, copyright is the cancer. There is no way to disable copyright. Even if you put something in the public domain, copyright will reattach itself and future users can be legally denied full access to it. Copyleft is the cure for copyright. It's the only cure we know.

Except that GPL comes with its own set of restrictions and it forces these restrictions on every bit of code it touches. LGPL is a bit better but I find the line confusing and blurry often. Many people do not believe it to be the cure at all.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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I still see Microsoft's predictable behavior in 2018. I have a friend who owns a Surface, and I was thinking it would be useful to put Linux on it (it was older ARM hardware). Well you can't, it's a Surface RT and Microsoft not only locks the bootloader but it also only runs Microsoft approved apps. That's their endgame whenever possible. Apparently people didn't like having fully locked down computers and they disco…

That's because you don't appreciate hardware design. Its understandable that you might be confused because of the presence of x86 compatible hardware. There is no such thing as "ARM Laptop". All ARM devices choose their own ARM processor implementation integrated with a custom motherboard with an undocumented firmware design. Not to mention custom drivers for all of the I/O. You can't install any OS on any random har…

You can install Linux on ARM architectures. It's commonplace that people install it on low end ARM laptops (and yes, those definitely exist in the 2-in-1 market). Also what do you think a Raspberry Pi is?

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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But in fact, copyright is the cancer. There is no way to disable copyright. Even if you put something in the public domain, copyright will reattach itself and future users can be legally denied full access to it. Copyleft is the cure for copyright. It's the only cure we know.

Except that GPL comes with its own set of restrictions and it forces these restrictions on every bit of code it touches. LGPL is a bit better but I find the line confusing and blurry often. Many people do not believe it to be the cure at all.

Many people don't understand what they're talking about. Those restrictions you talk about are purely to stop copyright reattaching itself in the future.

Anyone who uses copyleft really wants to declare the following: "This is not copyrighted and derived works shall never be copyrighted." That is not possible with current copyright law. Copyleft is the only way to get that.

GPL is not about enforcing restrictions, it's about doing what's necessary to neutralise the damaging effects of copyright. The fact that is uses copyright to achieve that makes it one of the greatest hacks of all time.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Fact is Microsoft is a hostile company and will have access to private repositories.

Why MS cares your private repositories? give a reason? Maybe using your code to train their programming robot, lol

This is a much more concrete possibility than people might realize: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/blog/deep-learning-...
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