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Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by scott_karana »

SAI_Peregrinus wrote: post #466
scott_karana wrote: post #384

I too am sad that despite the awesome speed, I'm forced to stick with v56 out of necessity for my add-ons. Tab Groups (which was originally a first-class Mozilla feature called Panorama) absolutely changed my browser workflow, and I can't imagine regressing... The new APIs won't support replacement any time soon, and the dev has already given up, since they'd already had to run a fundraiser once to add Electrolysis s…

Try Tree-Style Tabs. It totally replaced tab groups for me, it's far more capable.

Thanks, can't hurt to try.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by mintplant »

mook wrote: post #746
mintplant wrote: post #729

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what you're referring to, can you clarify?

Sure; I'm just complaining about the _existence_ of `browser.newtabpage.activity-stream.feeds.telemetry`. I'm not comfortable having tracking so near user data. Now that I'm not on a mobile and can actually look at the code, it looks like it's defined at [1]. I must be reading TelemetryFeed.jsm wrong, though, because that says addSession() holds on to the URL (as .page) and createPing() puts it into the ping... [1]:…

Tracing back through the code, this is only triggered with a URL by the RemotePages watcher, which notifies when the URL matches one of a whitelist. The only whitelisted URLs currently are about:home, about:newtab, and about:tabcrashed.

https://searchfox.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/modules...

https://searchfox.org/mozilla-central/search?q=symbol:%23Rem...

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by pcwalton »

qplex wrote: post #749
xtraeme wrote: post #668

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> Ah, well, sure, in that case, randomly breaking add-ons all the time would indeed have made our life easier. But everybody else's life would have been much worse, so we decided not to do that :) This is the part that I think you are going to get the most flak for. People are willing to deal with temporary setbacks if the changes can be brought in at some point. Permanently breaking things and calling that better wi…

I have to agree with this. If you provide an API you'd better commit to it. A lot of work is being wasted because of this. "Do not break userspace".

The browser internals aren't userspace. Web Extensions are userspace. The browser internals are more like kernel space, which the Linux kernel breaks, all the time [1].

[1]: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/e7aa8c2eb11ba69b1b690...

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by mkup »

SllX wrote: post #776
mkup wrote: post #534

Firefox Quantum feels very fast, but addon support is disappointing :( + uBlock Origin - Self-Destructing Cookies - YesScript - Video DownloadHelper - Save Session

Self-Destructing Cookies isn't supported anymore. I just found that out myself a bit earlier and am giving Cookies AutoDelete a shot. Edit: Forgot to mention but if you check the add-ons site, you should be able to find an updated extension for Video DownloadHelper.

UPDATE: new version of Video DownloadHelper addon for Quantum Firefox was not useful for me: it requires external companion app to write files (which I don't trust and don't want to install). But I found another addon: "Flash and Video Download", which does its job quite well without any assistance from external software.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by contravariant »

Sylos wrote: post #505
contravariant wrote: post #314

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I would be happy if I could just get a new tab that responded to addon defined gestures and hotkeys. Best solution so far seems to be to use the New Tab Override addon and point it to a blank page somewhere online.

I'm not entirely sure what you mean with that, so I can't test it, but have you tried about:blank? So, just give it "about:blank" as URL in New Tab Override. That's a blank page, as you might have guessed, but it's built into Firefox, so should load a lot faster. Really don't know, though, if Firefox actually treats it like a webpage or not.

Extension defined pages and all special "about:" pages are apparently off limits. You also can't make New Tab Override point to a local file (it can load a local file and present it as a webpage, but that defeats the point as it just becomes an extension defined webpage again).

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by yannovitch »

Do you know how many bookmarks it can sync ?

I have 30000+ bookmarks, and I use my bookmark structure all the time on all my devices, that's my workflow to write later content on my websites ( my folders = my categories, sort of) and I don't want to change my workflow.

When I was using FF two years ago, it couldn't sync that many bookmarks, and that's the only reason which was keeping me from using FF (besides speed and memory usage, but that tend to vary).

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by shabbyrobe »

baby wrote: post #574
DiThi wrote: post #348

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What OS, CPU, etc? It's pretty fast to me.

MacOS Sierra, 3.1 Ghz Intel i7, 16GB of DDR3, SSD, ... I have no idea why it's so slow.

It's uber slow for me too. Similar specs. Several hundred millisecond tab switches with a clean profile. Typing into slack is like typing into an SSH session over a bad dialup connection. Adding Tree Style Tabs kept my CPU over 20% and my fans running permanently. Maybe it's faster for people on Windows or Linux, but on macOS it's a major regression.

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by stesch »

aorth wrote: post #750
kelnos wrote: post #691

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I think that's a great point: it's difficult, near impossible, to make any particular piece of software contain 100% of the features that 100% of people want. Especially in the case of a tiny-minority feature, a specialized version that caters to your needs sometimes makes the most sense. I just worry that people using some of these alternative browsers are opening themselves up to security issues since those code ba…

> I just worry that people using some of these alternative browsers are opening themselves up to security issues since those code bases are less well-tested for security problems Absolutely. The web browser is one of the most notorious attack vectors on computers these days. I find it hilarious that a vocal minority of power users is protesting this _massively impressive_ Firefox release just because they lost Tree S…

We lost NoScript!

Re: Firefox 57.0 Released

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Post by usrusr »

Sylos wrote: post #752
disconnected wrote: post #287

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Look at this from a user perspective: The user diligently updates Firefox, optimistically hoping that this new version will be as awesome as the previous ones that vastly improved performance. Firefox starts and, suddenly, a bunch of things that used to work stop working. Why? Well, essentially, something that they can't hope to comprehend and that they never asked for and had no input on just ruined their browser. W…

1) Mozilla isn't retarded. They've done market research on this. For example, in Sep. 2015 around 40% of users did not use any extensions at all. Another sizeable number of users is going to have their ad blocker and nothing else. Even with 2, 3 or 4 extensions, it's unlikely that you're going to experience a breakage, and if you do, it's likely that you'll find a replacement. Average users rarely use unpopular exten…

> Even with 2, 3 or 4 extensions, it's unlikely that you're going to experience a breakage, and if you do, it's likely that you'll find a replacement.

This is simply not true as there had been many popular UI-centric extensions that just can't be replicated as webextensions due to lack of API support. "Advanced UI features belong in extensions, not in main" had been the Firefox mantra for many years and negativity about 57 is the logical consequence.

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