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Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by thomastjeffery »

spectistcles wrote: post #801
thomastjeffery wrote: post #741

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What you want is Linux. OS X is a bloated version of BSD. Why run that when you can use Linux for free? Install the software you use and nothing else. Your package manager will keep all of your software up to date for you. You won't be running an absurd antivirus program an the time...

I need to use the Adobe Creative Suite (or a mainstream alternative like Sketch). Literally the only reason I can't switch to linux. Before anyone even starts — GIMP is not viable in enterprise workflows.

> Before anyone even starts — GIMP is...

I understand completely. GIMP has never been very good (though quite usable in many cases). GTK (Gimp ToolKit) is a nice library, though. Krita is much better, but is very focused on painting.

At least you can run a real OS whenever you aren't using that specific software. Any reasonable linux distro will use Sure it's not ideal to have to reboot, but with solid state drives, rebooting isn't very much hassle anymore.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by jolux »

scholia wrote: post #808
jolux wrote: post #782

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I guess you think it's clever to imitate me or something? Anyways you clearly have nothing more to contribute. Microsoft wanted to give away Windows 10 "for free" but realized they'd be screwed money wise, so they loaded it up with advertising and telemetric crap to try and compensate. It's really that simple. I'm sorry I bothered engaging in the first place, and I certainly won't continue if you just imitate me with…

LOL. I certainly won't continue if you just imitate me with more inane bullshit in your reply.

Unstoppable force, meet immovable object.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by thomastjeffery »

abc_lisper wrote: post #802
thomastjeffery wrote: post #729

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"free" isn't about cost. "Free" is about liberty. When you use a proprietary OS, you rely entirely on its creators to create a system that does what you want. When something in Windows or OS X is not what you want (or is broken), you can't do anything about it. When something in a free OS is not what you want, you always have the option to use something else.

Free is about transparency . Not snooping on my files, do machine learning mumbo jumbo on my habits, surreptitiously nudge in the direction they want is huge part of it. Free is a promise , a promise that I do what I say. If the software doesn't, it is for all the world to see my deficiencies. Free is also about not being an asshole. It is about accepting the fact that, just because the users use my software, I don't…

Free is all of those things. Transparency has recently become much more important than it was originally.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by chefandy »

audunw wrote: post #355
chefandy wrote: post #162

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Especially since the whole virtual escape key thing– being a default layout vim user for 20+ years– I'd love to follow suit, but I need Adobe Creative Suite. The tools available on Linux aren't even ballpark. Getting OS X on a VM has always been fussy and frustrating, and if I wanted to work with Windows I'd just use a Windows laptop. On top of that, the apple magic trackpad is just great. Fussing with extracted boot…

> Especially since the whole virtual escape key thing– being a default layout vim user for 20+ years I really don't understand how there can be vim users that haven't remapped escape. Like, if you care about ergonomics enough to complain about making a rarely used key into a touch key, how can you not care enough to remap that key if you use it more often? And Mac OS even has built-in support to remap caps-lock to es…

I have large hands, so I 'like' vim escape key being mapped to the actual escape key. I also have 20+ years of muscle memory backing it up. I also do a fair amount of setting up servers or virtual environments and like to have my editor already set up on every machine I touch. I also use caps lock for writing SQL. So yes, there are people who haven't remapped it 'yet' and as long as it's still there, never will.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by wtetzner »

ovao wrote: post #501
Godel_unicode wrote: post #385

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> SSH / SFTP are fundamental tools They are provided out of the box (and newer versions than OSX ships with) by WSL. As is vim, emacs, apt, etc.

They are provided in WSL, but the Windows Subsystem for Linux is a separate install atop Windows, and the installation process is currently very complex and lengthy.

The installation process is not at all complex. You just have to turn on developer mode and check the box that says you want to enable WSL.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by wtetzner »

timdavila wrote: post #527
dade_ wrote: post #495

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I think it is great, all the usual Windows items apply. Specific to the SP3 Pro: use the SP4 keyboard, it is much better and is completely compatible; the dock is expensive and worth it: 2 display port connectors so I have the surface display, 4K monitor + 1K monitor attached working at the same time - Also wired Gigabit Ethernet; Magnet connector for the dock/power is super convenient; Power adapter has USB charging…

Thanks! I'm considering an SP4 or the Surface Book. Will definitely be getting a dock either way.

I recently got the Surface Book, and it's pretty fantastic. Both the keyboard and touchpad are great. I like the keyboard even better than my late 2012 rMBP's keyboard.

I have a SP3, and it's nice, but I didn't like using the type cover. I much prefer being able to keep it in my lap, with the screen suspended from the keyboard. I'm sure it works great with a dock, but I haven't use one.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by wtetzner »

omg_ketchup wrote: post #612
chrisper wrote: post #608

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Maybe it is the attitude that makes it "TRASH." It seems you have only tried Unity and elementaryOS? Right now I use Cinnamon, which is similar enough to Windows to not be "TRASH" imho. Also here is a Linux joke for you: If you don't like certain things, just fork it and do your own thing.

Cinnamon is good. Until you try to install a modern nvidia driver. At least, that was the case 6 months ago. Dual monitors should be plug & play. I shouldn't have to add a new repository to apt-get, I shouldn't have to choose between 15 Nouveau drivers and 15 potentially system-breaking nvidia drivers. It should "just work". Dual monitors, and just display output in general... this is 2017, this is very basic, expect…

> It doesn't matter how complicated it is to implement - the user doesn't give a shit, they just want two monitors.

Evidently it does matter how complicated it is to implement, or it would just work by now.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by wtetzner »

thomastjeffery wrote: post #729
juandazapata wrote: post #623

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"Linux is free, only if you don't value your own time" - Some guy that I don't remember

"free" isn't about cost. "Free" is about liberty. When you use a proprietary OS, you rely entirely on its creators to create a system that does what you want. When something in Windows or OS X is not what you want (or is broken), you can't do anything about it. When something in a free OS is not what you want, you always have the option to use something else.

> When something in a free OS is not what you want, you always have the option to use something else.

Or to modify it yourself, or even hire someone to change it to your liking.

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