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Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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post #735

Disclosure: I work on Google Cloud. Apologies if you find this to be in poor taste, but GCS directly supports the S3 XML API (including v4): https://cloud.google.com/storage/docs/interoperability and has easy to use multi-regional support at a fraction of the cost of what it would take on AWS. I directly point my NAS box at home to GCS instead of S3 (sadly having to modify the little PHP client code to point it to st…

"fraction of the cost" - how do you figure? Or are you just saying from a cost-to-store perspective?

Your Egress prices are quite a bit more compared to CloudFront for sub 10TB (.12/GB vs .085/GB).

The track record of s3 outages vs time your up and sending Egress seems like S3 wins in cost. If all your worried about is cross region data storage, your probably a big player and have AWS enterprise agreement in place which offsets the cost of storage.

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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post #805

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"[RESOLVED] Increased Error Rates Update at 2:08 PM PST: As of 1:49 PM PST, we are fully recovered for operations for adding new objects in S3, which was our last operation showing a high error rate. The Amazon S3 service is operating normally." https://status.aws.amazon.com/

oh the famous downvote for the smear campaign. just admit it.

Think you're mistaken, I don't have downvote privileges!

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

#814

S3 is currently (22:00 UTC) back up. The timeline, as observed by Tarsnap: First InternalError response from S3: 17:37:29 Last successful request: 17:37:32 S3 switches from 100% InternalError responses to 503 responses: 17:37:56 S3 switches from 503 responses back to InternalError responses: 20:34:36 First successful request: 20:35:50 Most GET requests succeeding: ~21:03 Most PUT requests succeeding: ~21:52

Thanks for taking the time to post a timeline from the perspective of an S3 customer. It will be interesting to see how this lines up against other customer timelines, or the AWS RFO.

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

#815
post #805

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"[RESOLVED] Increased Error Rates Update at 2:08 PM PST: As of 1:49 PM PST, we are fully recovered for operations for adding new objects in S3, which was our last operation showing a high error rate. The Amazon S3 service is operating normally." https://status.aws.amazon.com/

oh the famous downvote for the smear campaign. just admit it.

You're getting downvotes because you don't understand that B being down is not an effective indicator of the status of A, even if B depends on A.

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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post #812
post #735

Disclosure: I work on Google Cloud. Apologies if you find this to be in poor taste, but GCS directly supports the S3 XML API (including v4): https://cloud.google.com/storage/docs/interoperability and has easy to use multi-regional support at a fraction of the cost of what it would take on AWS. I directly point my NAS box at home to GCS instead of S3 (sadly having to modify the little PHP client code to point it to st…

"fraction of the cost" - how do you figure? Or are you just saying from a cost-to-store perspective? Your Egress prices are quite a bit more compared to CloudFront for sub 10TB (.12/GB vs .085/GB). The track record of s3 outages vs time your up and sending Egress seems like S3 wins in cost. If all your worried about is cross region data storage, your probably a big player and have AWS enterprise agreement in place wh…

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Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

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post #812
post #735

Disclosure: I work on Google Cloud. Apologies if you find this to be in poor taste, but GCS directly supports the S3 XML API (including v4): https://cloud.google.com/storage/docs/interoperability and has easy to use multi-regional support at a fraction of the cost of what it would take on AWS. I directly point my NAS box at home to GCS instead of S3 (sadly having to modify the little PHP client code to point it to st…

"fraction of the cost" - how do you figure? Or are you just saying from a cost-to-store perspective? Your Egress prices are quite a bit more compared to CloudFront for sub 10TB (.12/GB vs .085/GB). The track record of s3 outages vs time your up and sending Egress seems like S3 wins in cost. If all your worried about is cross region data storage, your probably a big player and have AWS enterprise agreement in place wh…

Sorry, my comparison is our Multi Regional storage (2.6c/GB/month) versus S3 Standard plus Cross-Regional Replication. That's the right comparison (especially for outages like this one).

As to our network pricing, we have a drastically different backbone (we feel its superior, so we charge more). But as you mention CloudFront, the right comparison is probably Google Cloud CDN (https://cloud.google.com/cdn/) which has lower pricing than "raw egress".

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

#819
post #521

FYI to S3 customers, per the SLA, most of us are eligible for a 10% credit for this billing period. But the burden is on the customer to provide incident logs and file a support ticket requesting said credit (it must be really challenging to programmatically identify outage coverage across customers /s) https://aws.amazon.com/s3/sla/

thats for below 99.9% - they are at 99.997% .. you are never getting that 10% credit..

You got your orders of magnitude wrong ;)

    99.9964583 = 100 - 153/(30*24*60)
    99.6458333 = 100 * (1 - 153/(30*24*60))

Re: Ask HN: Is S3 down?

#820
post #789

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Opportunistic, sure. But I did not know about the API interoperability. Given the prices, makes sense to store stuff in both places in case one goes down.

I am surprised more people don't know about it. I get questions like https://github.com/kahing/goofys/issues/158 every now and then and to be fair I don't think they market it well: https://cloud.google.com/storage/docs/migrating Disclosure: I don't work for google but have an upcoming interview there.

"Disclosure: I don't work for google but have an upcoming interview there."

Disclosure: I took a tour there one time and have used google.

EDIT: I realized that I was being mean, but why was that disclaimer relevant?

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