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Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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I have a Nexus 5X and the camera on it is terrible as well. If my next phone is an iPhone, it will likely be because of the camera.

I have a 5x and the pictures it produces are great. Main problem is with slow starting time.

My wife has an iPhone and the pictures on that are far better in every way.

For the Pixel phone, I kind of wish Google had focused on the phone to make something far better than the iPhone camera.

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It's hard to buy that argument. It doesn't appear Material ever attempted to be better than iOS, just different. And now Google Design is quietly backtracking (dialogs are transitioning to iOS action sheets, hamburger button is being phased out for bottom tab navigation). And now the phone even looks even more like an iPhone. Let's be honest, there are only two rules for design at Google: "Not Apple" and "good enough…

Honestly I notice more Android on my iPad than I notice iOS on my phone. iOS finally got custom keyboards so I can use a proper mobile keyboard like Swype, the notification panel isn't as useless as it was and is a lot richer like on Android. Its really only a matter of time until iOS introduces widgets on the home screen. I've convinced more than a couple people to switch to Android for their phone simply because yo…

> Were hamburger buttons an Android thing? I noticed them everywhere, including on the web.

More of a Twitter Bootstrap thing, I think.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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The camera on pixel is the killer. The low-light photos + the image stabilization is amazing.

They worked pretty hard to whoop Apple in the camera department. The HDR looks great, 4k video, unlimited online full-res storage through Google photos, it's the quickest camera ever, and yeah, I can't wait to play around with image stabilized video- I've been waiting to see that in a camera for a long time, it addresses a huge problem.

The iPhone 6S Plus had OIS for videos last year. I'm sure it wasn't the first either.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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I match your 1st gen iPad and raise you an iPhone 3GS. My youngest just upgraded to a hand-me-down iPhone 4 a few weeks ago, but my old 3GS is still working fine and even still works with the App Store. I can still download apps on to it that I bought back in 2009 and don't even show up in the store on modern devices, but they're still there for the 3GS. She used it for Whatsapp a lot. Gobsmacked.

I match your iPhone 3GS and raise an 3G. That thing had last iOS release 4.x, which made it unusable and I was scrambling to return it to 3.x. It wasn't capable to download anything from Apple Store for years. It still works as a phone though, also most of the built-in apps work, (except for syncing with Google account, since Google disabled ActiveSync support). What a difference one year of device age can make.

I had a 3G as well. We got maybe 3 years of useful work out of it, but that's all. It ended up with my wife's sister in China. The 3GS looked the same and seemed like an incremental update, but the improvements made a massive difference. Then the year after they came out with the iPhone 4. Wow! Those 2 years look like 5 years or more worth of advances in retrospect.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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I don't like Google because they're gonna use my data against me. I don't like Apple because it's a walled garden and millions other reasons. I don't like Samsung because they bloat Android. I don't like Huawei because I don't trust the Chinese government to not do stuff to it. I don't like LG and HTC because the smartphone market is slipping away from them. Am I just getting old?

I don't like Samsung because they bloat Android. Out of your points, this might be the easiest one to solve. I got a Samsung after being a Nexus owner, and it's not so bad! You can change to the Google now launcher, Google keyboard and so on, and Samsung does not actually get in my way.

There are so many apps that I can't uninstall on my Galaxy S3... That alone makes me want to have something else.

Also, I use google's keyboard, but once in a while, samsung puts back theirs (after an update or whatever), and it infuriates me.

Samsung _does_ get in my way, but it's possible it's because I have an old phone and the newer ones are better at this.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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The problem with ActiveSync -- which you may be aware of? -- is it gives the server the rights to remote wipe your phone! Great if you control the server and are really (really really really) sure it will never be hacked... Thanks for the Davdroid recommendation!

Nine allows you to specify a variety of security-related options including local passcodes, internal app data encryption, and whether the security policy (remote wipe capability) is applied at the application level or at the device level. I believe many of the other third-party Exchange-connecting apps have the same type of options.

Actually, when I was doing my research, Nine was the only app that allowed you to limit the Exchange policies to app-only level, not device-wide. That's the reason why I ended up using it.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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iOS is in a tough position, the road of incremental changes is coming to an end. The icon-based home screen is showing it's age and will need a revolution rather than an evolution. You can kinda see Apple dipping it toes into the widget arena with the notifications area, yet they're probably hesitant to remake the whole home screen and risk alienating their current users. Tech savvy people won't mind a new home scree…

The problems I have with the iPhone are 1) lack of a back button, so I have to learn every single screen of every single application and 2) the app store. I had to help a friend to find a qrcode app on Sunday. Look for qrcode in the store, 842 found. Wow... None of them has a review or stars. How do you trust them? We kept scrolling for a while, nothing. Compare that with the Google store. It doesn't tell me how many…

> Wow... None of them has a review or stars. How do you trust them?

The top result for me has over 800 reviews and ratings. The vast majority of them have at least some reviews.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Big time Nexus fan (and owner or N5, 6P) here. One thing that is of big concern for me now is that previously (until the Nexus line) their only OS was Android AOSP, and making it better was their sole motive. Now, it's in Google's best interest to market their exclusive Pixel phones, and differentiate Pixel Android from the 'other' Android, the AOSP. The whole Android community might suffer because of this.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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And yet not a single hard detail in the article as to why the headline might be true. For going on ten years we've seen the "iPhone killers" come and go, and this article does nothing to tell me why this time it will be different. Perhaps because it won't be. Of what very few details the article outlines, they just go on about nifty hardware. Have we not learned by now that cool hardware still sucks when hamstrung by…

Every Android phone is an iPhone killer. Android owns ~80% of the market, to iPhone's ~18% [1]. Having many price points turns out to matter a lot; but, I think even people who are not price sensitive often prefer Android (I certainly do). I've loved every Nexus device I've owned...the pure Android experience is hard to beat, IMHO. 1: http://www.macrumors.com/2016/02/18/ios-android-market-share...

How many of those Android users use an Android because they can't afford an iPhone?

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Design is not a matter of personal taste. It either achieves the goals of the designer or it doesn't. It can be evaluated on a purely objective basis. You're talking about style, which is about expression more than outcomes, and is received in a very personal way. When someone reacts so negatively to material design that they won't use it, that is a failure. There's no matter of opinion there. The purpose of the desi…

Rule #89: if someone on HN argues that something that seems subjective is actually objective... they're wrong.

Rule #89 appears subjective to me
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