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Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by rswail »

kstrauser wrote: post #377
bdbdbdb wrote: post #48

600 is a bargain for a MacBook, but I can't see the public windows users switching en masse. Most people who buy cheap windows laptops do so because 1) they need to replace a broken laptop and want to pay the lowest amount possible 2) they don't want to learn some new thing 600 might seem budget, but it's out of budget for most people. And my guess is PC manufacturers will retaliate against this by cutting prices jus…

The last time certain family members asked me for a computer recommendation, I gave them a detailed breakdown of which MacBook they could get to meet their lightweight needs for the next decade. They thanked me, agreed, went to Best Buy, and came back with the laptop that the salesperson convinced them was better "because he knows computers". It was an utter piece of crap and they've had nothing but problems with it.…

I told my (now 88) father that if he bought another desktop PC he was on his own.

Tough love works.

He loves his 24" iMac, it just works and I can fix things remotely if necessary (it hasn't been).

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by globular-toast »

drnick1 wrote: post #174

> You cannot buy an x86 PC laptop in the $600–700 price range that competes with the MacBook Neo on any metric — performance, display quality, audio quality, or build quality. And certainly not software quality. I would argue the opposite: while Apple hardware is generally excellent, it is the software that leaves to be desired. Apple has also been consistently pushing the industry in a dangerous direction (walled ga…

Yeah. There are a couple of Apple devices in the house and it's the software that causes me the most grief. The only thing worse is a Chromebook.

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by pdimitar »

newAccount2025 wrote: post #696
p1necone wrote: post #577

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The first thing I do with any new system is immediately wipe the drive and install a fresh copy of Windows/Linux, so bundled shovelware is meaningless to me, and presumably many others. (Of course it would be even better if they just came with a totally stock install already, but that's not worth hundreds of dollars to me)

That’s an added windows license though?

You can extract the key and write it down. It's a 2-minute job.

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by NookDavoos »

jsheard wrote: post #145
pjmlp wrote: post #15

All these PC can't compete reviews are based on US prices, outside it is ridiculous expensive for a 8 GB laptop.

I can't be the only one who remembers the celebration 18 months ago when Apple finally stopped selling Macs with 8GB of memory... only for 8GB to suddenly be excused again when the Neo arrived. Perhaps it's not the same people but the general vibe is giving me whiplash.

The 8 GB and lack of expandability are due to the design of the Neo chip. This is a pre-built A18 Pro chip with 8 GB of RAM built in.

I imagine the next version will have the A19 Pro chip - which has 12 GB of RAM.

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by hutattedonmyarm »

drcongo wrote: post #146
hutattedonmyarm wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recently helped a friend picking a new laptop. Just going through the options at the websites of manufacturers was a nightmare. Huge amount of choices, shitty filtering, separated into multiple product lines were I often enough had no idea what separated the lines from each other

If they're your friend, why didn't you just tell them to get a Mac?

They did end up getting a Macbook. I wouldn't have suggested it, because I don't want to make people switch operating systems if they themselves don't want to. But they threw it into the mix, so I did include it in the list of suggestions

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by diffeomorphism »

odo1242 wrote: post #794
crashbunny wrote: post #789

The neo might be the start of the end of traditional home PCs. You buy a thin client and a monthly subscription and all of your files and compute is in the cloud. Want to edit some raw video into a polished 20 minute video suitable for youtube? You don't open final cut pro, you tell your thin client to edit the raw video into a polished 20 minute video. Your monthly subscription includes AI and out pops an edited vid…

Why would it be the end of traditional home PCs? If you can buy this much compute power for $600, who would pay a subscription for another computer?

Because AI needs so much more power and in particular RAM.

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by olalonde »

raw_anon_1111 wrote: post #766
olalonde wrote: post #755

> my personal workstation remains a 2021 M1 Max MacBook Pro I was surprised that a guy who shills Apple for a living still uses a 5 year old MacBook. It goes to show how the longevity of laptops has increased over time. I'm also on a M1 Macbook and find it hard to justify an upgrade.

Someone didn’t read the “There is something rotten in Cupertino” article that caused Apple not only to not make an executive available for his post WWDC podcast for the first time in a decade or how he continuously criticizes Tim Cook kissing Trump’s ass. He has also been a continuous critic of Apple’s App Store policies and its handling of regulators

Well "shilling" is a bit strong but his livelihood is tethered to Apple.

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by raincole »

Aurornis wrote: post #290
bigyabai wrote: post #223

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> It's amazing someone can post that without the slightest hint of self-awareness. It's amazing that people attribute it to lacking self-awareness. You can spend $400 on a laptop and have a perfectly fine experience. There are damn good Chromebooks in the $200-300 territory that I can genuinely recommend to people. If you just need to do your taxes or answer a Zoom call, why would you get a Macbook Neo? macOS itself…

> You can spend $400 on a laptop and have a perfectly fine experience. Or you could spend $200 more (or $100 more with edu pricing) and get a MacBook Neo which has significantly higher build quality, a much better screen, a great trackpad, and amazing performance. Seeing how college students throw laptops in backpacks, that extra $100 (edu pricing) could very easily save them money in the long run. > There are damn g…

TIL Apple fans actually believe MacBook has 'higher build quality.'

Re: The MacBook Neo

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Post by einr »

tpmoney wrote: post #700
thewebguyd wrote: post #339

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The goal is different. Jobs wanted to make the product spread simple to understand. Apple's current method is a pricing ladder, make it simple to spend $200+ more than you planned. MacBook Neo, $599. Great but maybe I want Touch ID & more storage, ok $699. Well at this point now it's "only" $300 to get the air which is much better. Well, now that you're already spending $1000, might as well just do the extra $500 and…

I think you are completely misremembering what the Apple product lineup looked like even with the Steve Jobs cleanup. At its absolute simplest, it contained the iMac, iBook, PowerMac and PowerBook lines. Within each line was a "Good", "Better" and "Best" pre-configured model each being a few hundred different from the other and each of those models was further configurable to add additional storage / memory etc. That…

That level of simplicity lasted from approximately 1999 to 2002

Don’t forget the G4 Cube (most people do ;) which was also around at this time for reasons that are mostly unclear (looks cool though)

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