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Tell HN: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code has re-ignited a passion

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Re: Tell HN: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code has re-ignited a passion

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Post by croes »

Geste wrote: post #715
croes wrote: post #304

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> I’m a builder! I‘m a builder too. I built a house. Ok, I said an architect what I want and he showed me the plans and I gave him feedback for adjustments and then the plans were given to the construction crew and they built the actual house. But is was my prompt, so I‘m a builder.

Curious about that reasoning : where do you draw the line ? Are you a builder if there is an middleman ? If not, what if the middleman is a tool ? If you use autocad to build the plans, are you still a builder ? What if autocad has a prompt feature, are you still a builder ?

If you actually do something that is considered building.

Same with vibe coding, if you don’t write code you just ordered and didn’t code, otherwise all my customers and bosses where coders long before AI because there orders don’t reach much different from today’s prompts. The recipient changed but that doesn’t change the sender.

It’s some kind of Chinese Room but this time for those outside the room.

Re: Tell HN: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code has re-ignited a passion

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Post by nly »

tqwhite wrote: post #551
nly wrote: post #356

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I find this baffling tbh as I regularly ask Claude for basic components and they come out completely broken, wrong and buggy. The last: I asked for a quick TCP server in C++ that handled just a single client (disconnecting the existing client when a new client connected), with a send() that I could call from another thread. It was holding mutexes over read(), and trying to set the SO_REUSEPORT port socket option on a…

You are simply doing it wrong. I could do this TCP server in another time at all and it would be perfect. I have done stuff that complicated and more many times. You need to rethink how you are using the tool because you absolutely could get excellent results like I do. The biggest things I suggest are... Treat it as collaboration or pair programming. Make sure to work through a design before programming and have it…

That doesn't sound like it would actually save me any time, or produce better results than just doing it myself.

Re: Tell HN: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code has re-ignited a passion

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Post by leptons »

aklein wrote: post #723
newsoftheday wrote: post #716

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> yet I don't have to know or care about implementation details Where do I even begin...yes, you should care about implementation details unless you're only going to write stuff you run locally for your own amusement.

until you learn to trust the system and free mental capacity for more useful thinking. at some point compilers became better at assembly instructions than humans. seems inevitable this will happen here. caring about the details and knowing the details are two different things.

LLMs lie constantly. There should be no trust in that system. And no I don't think they will "get better".

Re: Tell HN: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code has re-ignited a passion

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Post by suzzer99 »

burnstek wrote: post #614

50 here. Years ago I completely stopped coding, becoming tired of the never ending rat race of keeping up with the latest bizarre web stacks, frameworks for everything, node for this, npm for that, Angular, React, Vue, whatever - as if solving business problems just became too boring for software developers, so we decided to spend our cycles on the new hotness at every turn. Tools like Claude Code are the ultimate ch…

I'm 56 and still coding full-time. My least favorite part of the job has always been trying to learn some brand new tech, googling with 47 tabs open, and you don't even know enough to ask the right questions yet. Turns out you were stuck on something so beginner that Stack Overflow didn't even have a post on it. ChatGPT has made that part of the job soooooo much less painful. But I'm not ready to let Claude run wild yet. I still want to understand everything I'm pasting.

Re: Tell HN: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code has re-ignited a passion

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Post by taejavu »

NewsaHackO wrote: post #779
Cpoll wrote: post #758

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You don't always have the option. AngularJS, for example, EOLed in 2021.

It is a huge stretch to call transitioning from angularjs to angular learning a new framework.

At the time that’s precisely how it felt though. So much so that I personally felt it wasn’t worth it relearning everything. Had shipped several projects with AngularJS at my very first dev job, and have never written a line of Angular v2+

Re: Tell HN: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code has re-ignited a passion

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Post by hippich »

scottLobster wrote: post #42

Maybe the internet has made me too cynical, and I'm glad people seem to be having a good time, but at time of posting I can't help but notice that almost every comment here is suspiciously vague as to what, exactly, is being coded. Still better than the breathless announcements of the death of software engineering, but quite similar in tone.

Some _fun_ stuff i "coded" in a day each just in last couple weeks:

https://hippich.github.io/minesweeper/ - no idea why but i had a couple weeks desire to play minesweeper. at some point i wanted to get a way to quickly estimate probability of the mine presence in each cell.. No problem - copilot coded both minesweeper and then added probabilities (hidden behind "Learn" checkbox) - Bonus, my wife now plays game "made" by me and not some random version from Play store.

another one made in a day - https://hippich.github.io/OpenCamber - I am putting together old car, so will need to align wheels on it at some point. There is Gyraline, but it is iOS only (I think because precision is not good enough on Android?). And it is not free. I have no idea how well it will work in practice, but I can try it, because the cost of trying it is so low now!

yes, both of these are not serious and fun projects. unlikely to have any impact. but it is _fun_! =)

Re: Tell HN: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code has re-ignited a passion

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Post by YZF »

suzzer99 wrote: post #805
burnstek wrote: post #614

50 here. Years ago I completely stopped coding, becoming tired of the never ending rat race of keeping up with the latest bizarre web stacks, frameworks for everything, node for this, npm for that, Angular, React, Vue, whatever - as if solving business problems just became too boring for software developers, so we decided to spend our cycles on the new hotness at every turn. Tools like Claude Code are the ultimate ch…

I'm 56 and still coding full-time. My least favorite part of the job has always been trying to learn some brand new tech, googling with 47 tabs open, and you don't even know enough to ask the right questions yet. Turns out you were stuck on something so beginner that Stack Overflow didn't even have a post on it. ChatGPT has made that part of the job soooooo much less painful. But I'm not ready to let Claude run wild…

There is a lot more Claude Code can do for you that an AI chat bot can't because it a) has tool access b) has access to your source code.

- Root cause and fix failures.

- Run any code "what if scenario".

- Performance optimizations.

- Refactor.

There's no reason why you shouldn't (and you should) read all the code and understand it after Claude does any work for you but the experience vs. the "old" SO model of looking for some technical detail is very different.

Re: Tell HN: I'm 60 years old. Claude Code has re-ignited a passion

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Post by kazinator »

satvikpendem wrote: post #671
kazinator wrote: post #648

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A free license, like the BSD, if followed, ensures that the unpaid creator of a free work is at least credited. Everyone using that work at the source code level sees the copyright notice with that author's name. The author has already given everyone the freedom to do anything with the code, except for plagiarism. AI is taking away the last thing from peoiple who have shared everything else.

Why is plagiarism an issue? In school it's an issue due to the effect that students won't learn well if they just copy everything, but outside of school and especially for personal use, why should I care if I "plagiarize" or not (and arguably AI doesn't even plagiarize as it's not a 1 to 1 copy paste of the code when making a new project)? The concept of plagiarism is as much a fiction as "intellectual" property. The…

> Why is plagiarism an issue?

For starters, because of the western values of giving credit.

We have diseases named after people, never mind inventions and ideas.

Plagiarism is kick-out-of-school grade academic misconduct, whereby you are pretending that someone's work (and the ability it implies) is your own.

> The only sort of property that actually exists is real and tangible.

Remember, I'm talking about works that are free to redistribute, use and even modify. Or in other cases, that the users to whom a compiled work is distributed have access to the buildable source code.

The authors put their names on it, and terms which says that their notices are to be preserved when copies are made.

This isn't good enough for the Altmans and Amodeis of the world.

> it's an issue due to the effect that students won't learn well if they just copy everything

... and fraudulently obtain professional licensing, and use that to cause harm: medical malpractice, unsafe engineering.

It is fraud.

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