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Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Everyone deserves private and secure defaults without having to manually install another os.

I have plenty of non technical friends that care about security but don't come from technical backgrounds, but generally understand the problems google and apple have.

Id recommend this to them in a heartbeat.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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I actually don't regret going in and turning "show dead" on so I could see it. Knowing that someone is considered a lolcow is legitimately useful information. It might no be polite, you might not like it, but it is useful data to people who prefer their truths entirely unfettered by nosy busybodies who call themselves "moderators".

Who in the derp are you?

That question has no relevance other than to gin up an ad hominem. Shame on you.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Swipe up from the bottom (which goes to the app switcher), and then swipe up any app you want to force-quit.

Sorry, I definitely was unclear when angry writing this > Is there no option I can find so I just force close the app? I end up doing that a lot but it's honestly a bad solution that shouldn't have to be used

I see, you can't find the way back so you quit the app in frustration. I get that

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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GrapheneOS is finally decoupling itself from Google Pixel phones. This is great news. Motorola makes great hardware too. Looking forward to see what comes out of this.

> Motorola makes great hardware too Do they really still design their own hardware? I was under the impression that the Moto series and more was designed by a Chinese OEM, since Motorola Mobility is owned by Lenovo (China).

100% it's OEM, every chinese phone is built by some "you never heard about" company and later rebranded as Xiaomi or whatever.

Does it matter though? With big enough leverage OEM will provide docs and will adapt hardware. That will cost extra, of course.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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If anyone from Motorola reads this thread; the market is beyond ripe for a good shake up. Going full open source and pushing updates & openness, user control and freedom, you will gobble up a good chunk of market share. Make MDM easy & first class (no third parties...), and a ton of corp will roll it out too. We need you more than you think.

I don’t think so. Motorola Mobility is owned by the Chinese Lenovo, making it an adversary-owned entity in the eyes of most Western governments. Even with a fully open-source OS and first-class MDM, the company would struggle to gain significant market share. The Hardware Root of Trust and the binary blobs would still be compiled by a firm that Western governments view as a fundamental supply-chain risk.

Re: "The Hardware Root of Trust and the binary blobs would still be compiled by a firm that Western governments view as a fundamental supply-chain risk."

Sorry to break it to you, but all of the US hardware firms have now fallen into this same trust-abyss. Trump's USA is now seen in many parts as as big, if not a bigger, digital sovereignty threat as China's communist party is.

Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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I'm aware of what happened, and I'm getting GOS news directly, not from HN. However, you're still the biggest contributor of code to GOS (judging by commit history). That's what I meant.

> and I'm getting GOS news directly, not from HN And from a director themselves! strcat is one of the directors in case you didn't know (Daniel). Which makes his reply quite bizarre

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Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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No, by all means. Add a couple more paragraphs. Your rant seethes with credibility.

I actually don't regret going in and turning "show dead" on so I could see it. Knowing that someone is considered a lolcow is legitimately useful information. It might no be polite, you might not like it, but it is useful data to people who prefer their truths entirely unfettered by nosy busybodies who call themselves "moderators".

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Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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Apple is doing a marvelous job of destroying the whole “it just works” or “it’s easy to figure out how to ____” thing they had going on. I would get over on an android 10-12 years ago and get exasperated about even trying to send a text message on the damned thing. Which, unfortunately can also now be said about the Apple experience. Apple doesn’t care what I think about their battery draining bloated garbage softwar…

The problem is as bad as Apple has become, it has a long way to fall before it reaches the depths of Google/Android. We could have six more iOS 26 style disaster releases and I suspect it would still be better than putting up with Android. I tried to switch to graphene for similar reasons to you. It just wasn’t viable, as you’re discovering. And if you want to even attempt to have a modern smartphone experience, you’…

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Re: Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS

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You said you don't know who makes the decisions.

Meredith Whittaker is not a techie AFAIK. Either way, I'd just like to know more about the thought process going into Signal's product and engineering decisions. The Signal team seems extraordinarily tight-lipped and that doesn't exactly inspire trust from where I stand.

Have you heard her speak? She seems pretty bright to me.
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