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Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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It is super interesting that this is the same thing that happened in November (ie all labs shipping around the same week 11/12-11/23).

They're just throwing a big Chinese New Year celebration.

Could that actually be connected? There are a LOT of Chinese engineers and researchers working on all these models, I assume they would like to take some vacation days, and it makes sense to me to time releases around it.

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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Plus they started making AI processors 11 years ago and invented the math behind “GPTs” 9 years ago. Gemini is way cheaper to run for them than it does for everyone else. I think Gemini is really built for their biggest market — Google Search. You ask questions and get answers. I’m sure they’ll figure out agentic flows. Google is always a mess when it comes to product. Don’t forget the Google chat sagas where it seem…

Why do you assume they’ll figure it out when they pretty consistently mess things up?

You need some qualifiers. Google is very good at engineering. For example, I hate that Google uses my data to serve ads, but there isn't a tech company I would trust more to safe guard my data.

Where Google has fallen down is trying to productize new things. Imagine if Apple had Google's software prowess, or Google had Apple's ability to conceptualize a complete product.

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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For me, Gemini has been by far the best model for document understanding tasks. I look forward to seeing how much more capable this version is.

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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I hope this works better than 3.0 Pro I'm a former Googler and know some people near the team, so I mildly root for them to at least do well, but Gemini is consistently the most frustrating model I've used for development. It's stunningly good at reasoning, design, and generating the raw code, but it just falls over a lot when actually trying to get things done, especially compared to Claude Opus. Within VS Code Copi…

I primarily use Gemini 3 Flash with a GUI coding agent I made by myself and its been able to successfully one-shot mostly any task I throw at it. Why would I ever use a more expensive reasoning and slower reasoning model? I am impressed with the library knowledge Gemini knows, I don't use any skills or MCP and its able to implement functions to perfection. No one crawls more data than Google and their model reflects…

My experience with Antigravity was that 3 Pro can reason itself out of Gemini’s typical loops, but won’t actually achieve it (it gets stuck).

3 Flash usually doesn't get into any loops, but then again, it’s also not really following prompts properly. I’ve tried all manner of harnesses around what it shouldn’t do, but it often ignores some instructions. It also doesn’t follow design specs at all, it will output React code that is 70% like what it was asked to do.

My experience with Stitch is the same. Gemini has nice free-use tiers, but it wastes a lot of my time with reprompting it.

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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Off-topic but, what are people using to create those video animations seen in the "ISS orbit tracking dashboard" example? Looks pretty nice! Im guessing Google uses a whole building of UX people but ive seen similar videos from small indie startups too, or even 1 person SaaS.

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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What I’m noticing, overall: I’ve never cut so much code in my life. I’ve become a coding monster with one of those dark green GitHub profiles ever since 5.3-Codex gave me the confidence to load in a ridiculous number of tasks every day and let it rip. I have about three coding tasks going at once and in another window, Claude Cowork is ripping through PowerPoints and getting back to lawyers. This tech is not going to…

what is your setup to let it run on tasks in parallel?

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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Right now I'll pay 2x for a subjectively 20+% better coding agent. But in a year I don't think there will be an agent that to me is subjectively 20% better amongst the big three.

So where is the moat for these companies then, in the end will they all be almost the same from the pov of a normal person? So it's just price competition?

Google will win, it’s becoming obvious

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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Gemini is the most paradoxical model because it benchmarks great even in private benchmarks done by regular people, Deep Mind is unquestionably full of capable engineers with incredible skill, and personally Gemini has been great for my day job and my coding for fun (not for profit) endeavors. Switching between it and 4.6 in antigravity and I don't see much of a difference, they both do what I ask. But man, people ar…

I personally found Gemini 3.0 to step on my toes in Agentic coding. I tried it around 10 or so times but it quickly became apparent that it was somehow coming to its own conclusions about what needs to be done instead of following instructions. Like files I didn't mention being edited and read and stuff of that nature. Sometimes this is cute in fixing typos in docs but when its changing things where it clearly doesn'…

So strange. I switched from claude few months ago to gemini3 and didn’t look back. Speed is big one, code quality just vastly better, all while far cheaper. I do need to try latest claude models tho.

Re: Gemini 3.1 Pro

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It's an excellent demonstration of the main issue I have with the Gemini family of models, they always go "above and beyond" to do a lot of stuff, even if I explicitly prompt against it. In this case, most of the SVG ends up consisting not just of a bike and a pelican, but clouds, a sun, a hat on the pelican and so much more. Exactly the same thing happens when you code, it's almost impossible to get Gemini to not do…

Asking LLM programs to "not do the thing" often results in them tripping and generating output including that "thing", since those are simply the tokens which will enter the input. I always try to rephrase query the way that all my instructions have only "positive" forms - "do only this" or "do it only in that way" or "do it only for those parameters requested" etc. Can't say if that helps much, but it is possible.

Which is how it works with people as well
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