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TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Post by RegW »

js8 wrote: post #133

When I was 11, on 17th Nov 1989, in Czechoslovakia, my father was watching the evening news on our (black and white) TV, as usual. There was a protest and the state media was reporting on it. When the reporter said, "our camera broke down and we can only show black and white pictures", my father IMMEDIATELY jumped up and angrily said, "that's bs, you don't want to show how they [the protesting students] got beaten up…

It is sad. It's now happening west of us. In Europe we have been trying to protect ourselves by not saying too much and attracting the attention/wrath of the bosses. I don't think it will work.

If you are in Iran - keep your head down.

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Post by 9dev »

I-M-S wrote: post #796
TheAlchemist wrote: post #786

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm contemplating it, but I'm not that old yet ! Of course there was always a bit, sometimes a lot, of propaganda everywhere. But at least it was (mostly) for the right causes and ideals. Right now, US is being governed by what I see as the worst possible people, with 0 morals.

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Before Trump, at least we had the hypocrisy —like, at least people would pretend to have a moral higher ground. Now there are just completely shameless thugs in charge. They don’t even bother to lie convincingly anymore; just listen to Kristi Noem in interviews, contradicting herself from sentence to sentence without a care in the world. They won’t be held accountable for anything, and they know it.

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Post by TheAlchemist »

jjice wrote: post #792
rustymonday wrote: post #737

So this was uploaded only 6 hours ago and has over 1,000 points and is at the very bottom of the front page (#28 right now).

Comments like this appear on every single post like this. Hacker New's algorithm lowers posts that have too much engagement too fast as a way to prevent flame wars. Is it perfect? No. But I highly doubt this is HN demoting this on purpose. From the FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html > The basic algorithm divides points by a power of the time since a story was submitted. Comments in threads are ranked the…

I believe the reasons for this system where initially good - don't want too many political discussions, keep it on tech only.

The issue is, that the tech is not a niche thing anymore - the biggest companies on earth are all tech now, and they played a very major role in installing the current US government. This topic is a great example too. Any current or future authoritarian state will be a very heavy user of technology, so it may very well be worth it debating these things here on HN.

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Post by rustymonday »

jjice wrote: post #792
rustymonday wrote: post #737

So this was uploaded only 6 hours ago and has over 1,000 points and is at the very bottom of the front page (#28 right now).

Comments like this appear on every single post like this. Hacker New's algorithm lowers posts that have too much engagement too fast as a way to prevent flame wars. Is it perfect? No. But I highly doubt this is HN demoting this on purpose. From the FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html > The basic algorithm divides points by a power of the time since a story was submitted. Comments in threads are ranked the…

Thanks for explaining this.

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Post by direwolf20 »

thephyber wrote: post #765
kingstnap wrote: post #607

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> from a practical standpoint, it is infeasible to formally understand every nuance of every law ever created just to be a citizen I feel like this is basically the case in everything. * A lot of people don't read the article before commenting. * Nobody reads TOS for things. * Most people don't read academic papers. * MIT or BSD license is easy, but how many people here have actually read the whole GPL, Apache, or Mo…

> Everything is done with value judgements. Less about value judgements. More about outsourcing to people/brands we trust. When it comes to software licenses, we aren’t lawyers, so the informed people will use a primer created by a trusted 3rd party. Maybe GitHub’s “which license is right for me?” Page. Who to vote for in local elections is usually decided via one of the following: (1) I know/met the person, (2) I tr…

The last 2 decades have been spent with companies learning to exploit this. For example, every large tech business would prefer all your code was MIT/BSD and they have spread advice to this effect.

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Post by I-M-S »

TheAlchemist wrote: post #799
I-M-S wrote: post #796

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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One may genuinly debate the genocide, racism, imperialism etc. But I can guarantee you that the 'opressed working class' in the US had it 100 times better than the non opressed Eastern European one.

Unfortunately it is true that the working class does seem to always get the short end of the bargain.

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Post by pickleRick243 »

megolodan wrote: post #277
rcpt wrote: post #255

Nuts that the whole company is in on it. Missing such a huge story is something that rank and file engineers would notice. But nobody is saying anything. Perhaps on the tiktok Blind?

I used to think that most engineers had strong ethics, but It seems thats not the case. I wonder if it is widespread knowledge internally or if just the select few know.

Why would you think that engineers have stronger ethics than the population at large? Following this logically, some profession would have to have lower than average ethics or perhaps only the unemployed do?

I don't think that one's personal moral compass and one's profession have much correlation at all. Otherwise, moral philosophy professors would be near saints. Moreover the moral philosophers at Harvard would be more ethical than those at Ohio State.

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Post by direwolf20 »

jamwil wrote: post #761
direwolf20 wrote: post #758

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On all matters reality decides which is which. None of us have a psychic link to God (anyone who thinks he does, does not, and should be institutionalised), but there are many good heuristics for what is true, and we do not have to abandon the concept of truth.

I think we agree but those heuristics… That is the scientific method. That’s all we got.

One of many, and one of the best. Unless you performed the scientific method yourself or closely watched someone perform it, it's not available to you and you have to use another. A truthful-seeming report of someone else performing it is pretty far up the ladder, until the enemies learn to write false experiment reports indistinguishable from real ones.

Not all fields of study are amenable to the scientific method, and lesser scientific methods are the best possible. We can't duplicate earth and flood one with CO2. We have to reach farther down the heuristic ladder, like studying two glass bottles, one filled with CO2. This can be extrapolated to calculate what a planet filled with CO2 would do, but the maths required is much less accessible.

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Post by wswope »

tastyface wrote: post #565

Just say no to any/all forms of corporate owned social media. They are toxic and antithetical to freedom of speech and true community building. Inevitably, all of them will eventually be used to disseminate propaganda.

Just throwing these out there for people looking for options: Check out Piefed for a Reddit-like, and lobste.rs for an HN-like.

The fediverse might not be booming with activity to the same degree as the big names, but there’s plenty out there and it has a pleasant small-forum vibe that went extinct on the bigger sites a long time ago.

Re: TikTok users can't upload anti-ICE videos. The company blames tech issues

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Post by Forgeties79 »

iugtmkbdfil834 wrote: post #780
Forgeties79 wrote: post #751

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I would be remiss if I didn’t suggest everyone go watch the Watchmen series on HBO

Honestly, and I say it without a shade of irony, it might be for the best, if the collective 'we' stop attempting re-enact fictional events and lives in alternate worlds. It would do everyone, and I do mean everyone, a good solid needful, should they just stopped and thought about what they are doing and the likely course of the events given their actions. It would be orders of magnitude more productive if we did tha…

I’m saying people should watch a powerful series about state violence and masking with real world lessons that can be taken away. I’m unsure what you mean by how we shouldn’t re-enact fictional events. Are you talking about my suggestion? Or are you saying we should end acting? Or is it something g else?
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