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Tesla’s 4680 battery supply chain collapses as partner writes down deal by 99%

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Re: Tesla’s 4680 battery supply chain collapses as partner writes down deal by 99%

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Tesla had a ridiculous lead over everyone and they spaffed it. No new features, no HUD, no dashboard. They want 60k for cars which have nothing in them. Other companies have now ripped the software and the iPad, so they have nothing unique. All they had to do was continue to improve the product. They didn’t even try.

Yes but have you heard of the Somali daycare in Minnesota? Also, something something great replacement.

Did you get lost on your way to Reddit?

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#802
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Over promising is fraud. The hyperbole doesn’t help your argument at all.

What part is hyperbole? Too many to quote but https://elonmusk.today hosts an intensive list of his lies.

Making predictions that don't come true is no fraud. Calling it fraud it hyperbole.

And Jesus some people have more time on their hands than they know what to do with making a site like that.

Imagine if they put their efforts into productive uses!

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High quality? I’ve ridden in several. It’s an all plastic deal with a flimsy feel. The ride is horrible and from the reviews I e read the handling is terrible.

Handling on basically all EVs except maybe what porsche is doing is terrible. And American cars are all plastic and flimsy, and this includes Tesla. But they're also much more expensive.

The Chinese EVs were particularly atrocious in their handling.

And sure some American cars are plastic and flimsy (particularly the low end models), but these are premium Chinese brands.

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The Chinese cars makers are heavily government funded, with the goal of flooding markets. It’s not hard to sell EVs when you’re losing money on each one.

Can you provide links showing how much any of the companies is getting from the government?

https://www.electrive.com/2025/08/22/china-discloses-subsidi...

$230B is the number thrown around, but those are the direct subsidies. When suppliers are subsidized it gets hard to account for all of it.

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Lancet lost all credibility long ago. They had to retract several seminal papers on autism and vaccines as well as Covid. USAID isn’t an aid organization, it’s a front for CIA efforts internationally. It funded CORDS during the Vietnam War which was a paramilitary force. DOGE didn’t get rid of USAID, Rubio did day one (since it falls under the State Department).

> Lancet lost all credibility long ago. Whether or not they're credible to you, they're still the #2 ranked general medicine journal in the world, second only to the NEJM. > USAID isn’t an aid organization, it’s a front for CIA efforts internationally This is a conspiracy theory that can be trivially refuted by simply following the money. You can do this because their budget is public, unlike the budget of the CIA. T…

> Whether or not they're credible to you, they're still the #2 ranked general medicine journal in the world, second only to the NEJM.

Their ranking is based on how often papers are referenced in total, not the validity of any one paper. As I said, they been criticized for serious lapses in publishing fraudulent papers.

> The stuff you're citing from a half century ago isn't relevant to the work they've been doing when Musk said "Time for it to die."

I'm sorry what? It's the same organization? The fact that USAID was funding paramilitary organizations during war tells you USAID has nothing to do with aid.

> USAID actually was was a vital tool of US soft power and influence globally....if you believe that it's important to wipe out the last remaining vestiges of the United States' perception as 'the good guys' then by all means it was very important to stop their work immediately.

So you're saying unless the US can project soft power and influence (which is ALWAYS to the US' benefit, it absolutely is not altruistic) it won't be viewed as the "good guys"?

Wut?

That makes no sense.

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I'm sure there is a Polymarket for you to bet against FSD that I use to drive 99% of the time.

One would be crazy to bet on that on Polymarket. They had a bet for Tesla Robotaxi rollout before end of 2025 and it resolved to YES. So it must be like your FSD - Tesla is apparently already operating a general public access autonomus Robotaxi, maybe even 50% of the US population like the CEO said.

so you were wrong and lost or what? they are operating a general public access autonomous robotaxi in sf, dunno what you are on about

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Yeah, it's typical of Elektrec to interpret anything Tesla-related in the worst light. I personally fact checked articles about "Autopilot disengages milliseconds before collision" and the one related to Benavides v. Tesla case. In the first case they jumped to conclusions. In the second case they "forgot" to mention any details that contradict their narrative: that there were two cases separated by years, that the p…

My understanding is Fred (Electrek) has been nothing but negative about Tesla since he got upset that they haven't released the roadster yet. Something to do with having enough referral points to get one. It has become his whole identity and it is sad to see.

Pretty sure those comments are tongue in cheek. And it’s not that he’s dying to buy one, Tesla owes him one, and doesn’t have to fulfill it by never making any

HN audience loves to undermine one of the only places actually objectively calling out the mega corps

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? My Ford Mustang Mach-e has great software. It works, is reliable, supports apple and android car. BMW software stack does even more. Where is this coming from? What are the features you are missing? BMW can be remote controled also Mercedes and VW btw.

> supports apple and android car That’s precisely what I don’t want my car to support. Every other car’s software is essentially a CarPlay integration.

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My understanding is Fred (Electrek) has been nothing but negative about Tesla since he got upset that they haven't released the roadster yet. Something to do with having enough referral points to get one. It has become his whole identity and it is sad to see.

Pretty sure those comments are tongue in cheek. And it’s not that he’s dying to buy one, Tesla owes him one, and doesn’t have to fulfill it by never making any HN audience loves to undermine one of the only places actually objectively calling out the mega corps

I wouldn't speculate about his reasons, but many of his articles are objectively bad journalism.

Re: Tesla’s 4680 battery supply chain collapses as partner writes down deal by 99%

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? My Ford Mustang Mach-e has great software. It works, is reliable, supports apple and android car. BMW software stack does even more. Where is this coming from? What are the features you are missing? BMW can be remote controled also Mercedes and VW btw.

are you on crack? The only German car that even comes close to Tesla is the new BMV Neue Klasse.

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