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Re: Steam Machine

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Does anyone know if the resolution is good enough to use it for work? I.e., e-mails, programming, etc EDIT: I mean the VR googles.

Its a linux computer, if you connect it to a 4k monitor you could use that. The one issue I see is that it only has one HDMI port, so you couldn't connect two screens without a dongle. But for all intents and purposes, its a prebuilt pc in a tiny form factor.

I mean the VR googles. Will edit my comment.

Re: Steam Machine

#802
Seems to me that there is a fourth platform emerging: Windows, Mac, Linux and now, Steam.

PS: I know its custom Arch Linux under the hood, I'm talking about mass market nomenclature.

Re: Steam Machine

#803

> Install your own apps, or even another operating system. Who are we to tell you how to use your computer? I'm so happy to read this

Valve respects its customers. It is so insane that this isn't a norm; what a world we would be in if all companies did so.

Gamers are a passionate bunch. Screwing around with them is a losing game that no one has historically ever won. And also because a lot of their competitors fucked up to pave the road for them (Think Sony's PS fiasco, Microsoft's X-Box clusterfuck from which they're yet to recover from, a decade later). Valve has gotten alot of billion dollar lessons in here that Valve got for free.

Re: Steam Machine

#804

SteamOS has way more appeal to gamers in 2025 than it could have had in, say, 2004. On the surface the lack of popular multiplayer titles that require a kernel-level anti-cheat is a heavy downside, but gaming is extremely fragmented these days. In 2004 everyone, save for the casual players, at least tried DOOM3 and Half-Life 2. In 2025 Fortnight has an all-time peak of 12M players, but at the same time there are many…

I was a heavy gamer in 2004 and never played HL2 or DOOM3. I know many such people. I think games like Mario party, smash, and Mario kart were far more ubiquitous.

That just sounds like all you had access to was a Nintendo console, not necessarily due to your own choice. I missed out on all the early zelda, metroid, and mario home console games because we were a playstation family until the wii.

Re: Steam Machine

#805
post #69

"Steam Machine’s pricing is comparable to a PC with similar specs" [0] It has to be no more than 800€ then if it also wants to compete against the console market. Even 800€ is too much imo because looking at the specs it's already not a "future proof" build, more like a previous gen gaming laptop 0, https://www.theverge.com/tech/818111/valve-steam-machine-han...

what kind of specs can we build a mini itx these days? I haven't looked into it, but the small form factor is a pretty big premium. I'm not sure I could build a ~ Raydon 7600xt micro itx build for less than $1K usd? (I haven't really looked, though).

For me, I'm looking at this like a nice micro itx build, and I'd probably pay up to a grand for it. (pending final specs and performance reviews, because it's kind of hard to compare it's custom chips on paper.)

Re: Steam Machine

#806
post #558

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't gamed in almost a decade but what an exciting time to be alive as a PC gamer: - almost every classic console is easy to emulate - most modern consoles are, less-legally, emulatable - we have thorough archives of Flash games and ofc almost all non-flash web games are still functioning - cross compatibility across OS's has never been better And, best of all, almost all of this is achievable on Linux! You can…

> In fact, I can't think of a single thing a console can do that a PC can't Play current Nintendo game cards (and run the eShop etc.) without headaches or workarounds of dubious legality? Run your whole PSN library reliably, without headaches or workarounds? Full game system (with decent 4K in the case of PS5) for the price of a GPU? Work out of the box without messing with it?

Yes it's true. Emulators still have trouble getting around DRM and console-exclusives

But think about it this way. A PC can run PS3 games but a PS4 can't. A PC can run xbox 360 games but an xbox one can't.

I think all the console-exclusives out there are more than made up for by PCs being the ultimate backward-compatible gaming system

Re: Steam Machine

#807
post #69

"Steam Machine’s pricing is comparable to a PC with similar specs" [0] It has to be no more than 800€ then if it also wants to compete against the console market. Even 800€ is too much imo because looking at the specs it's already not a "future proof" build, more like a previous gen gaming laptop 0, https://www.theverge.com/tech/818111/valve-steam-machine-han...

I might be the minority, but I frankly would buy it at 1000€ easily if it meant that the hardware was really good.

Nope, I don't think you're the minority, once people think of this as a micro itx build. Power supply integrated. That's cool. Will be curious what the actual performance is because hard to compare the custom chipsets with what's out there now.

Re: Steam Machine

#808

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was a heavy gamer in 2004 and never played HL2 or DOOM3. I know many such people. I think games like Mario party, smash, and Mario kart were far more ubiquitous.

Your definition of heavy gamer I think differs from the norm if your main plays were Mario kart, et al.

Yeah, I am pretty sure most heavy gamers in 2004 were knee deep into MMOs and FPSes.

Re: Steam Machine

#810
post #805
post #69

"Steam Machine’s pricing is comparable to a PC with similar specs" [0] It has to be no more than 800€ then if it also wants to compete against the console market. Even 800€ is too much imo because looking at the specs it's already not a "future proof" build, more like a previous gen gaming laptop 0, https://www.theverge.com/tech/818111/valve-steam-machine-han...

what kind of specs can we build a mini itx these days? I haven't looked into it, but the small form factor is a pretty big premium. I'm not sure I could build a ~ Raydon 7600xt micro itx build for less than $1K usd? (I haven't really looked, though). For me, I'm looking at this like a nice micro itx build, and I'd probably pay up to a grand for it. (pending final specs and performance reviews, because it's kind of ha…

Intel i7, 1tb ssd, 32gb ram and 3070 can fit in ITX which would be MUCH better performance than the steam box for games.

Only downside is you have to install Windows of course.

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