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Re: iPhone Pocket

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Post by Animats »

bborud wrote: post #745

Objects have to earn the right to exist. We make so much stuff. Most of it unnecessary. Stuff that will soon be cluttering your home and then end up in a landfill. This is not a product that deserves to exist. It is not made from quality materials ( Nylon (14%), Polyester (85%), Polyurethane (1%)). It is not innovative. It is questionable whether it solves its primary use case particularly well. What makes this parti…

Hadn't heard Issey Miyake mentioned in over a decade. He was an important designer in the 1980s, and died in 2022. Known for running completed garments through a pleating machine.

Looking at that thing, the overall impression is "a phone so big and heavy it needs its own shoulder bag?"

Re: iPhone Pocket

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Post by lucideer »

futuraperdita wrote: post #789
bborud wrote: post #782

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To some degree, but junk is junk even if it says Issey Miyake on it. But at the price they are asking I'd insist on higher quality materials. Not this junk. It is like those horrible Louis Vuitton plastic bags. Yes they are expensive and probably better made than most plastic bags, but they are mass produced plastic bags. You can get nice, custom, handmade bags for a fraction of what this pointless junk goes for. (Th…

> You can get nice, custom, handmade bags for a fraction of what this pointless junk goes for. You're making the subjective value judgement that a synthetic material is "junk", without qualifying it as such. A textile that is less expensive to manufacture, or is synthetic, does not automatically qualify as "junk". Look at technical fabrics such as GoreTex as a highly functional example, or any avant-garde techwear fr…

GoreTex is highly functional but it doesn't last long & it isn't repairable. These are trade-offs that may be worthwhile for certain innovative, highly-functional use-cases (like water proofing) but are very rarely worthwhile for average use-cases.

With very few exceptions, the majority of synthetic materials commonly used in clothing come with these trade-offs. "Junk" being a slang term for things that get thrown away seems appropriate in this case (short-lived, non-repairable material).

> have some artistic merit within the fashion world

> It's also OK to not care about fashion-as-art, but fashion is oft ephemeral by nature and design

While I do feel strongly that art for its own sake is oft undervalued & has enormous merit, this is ultimately off-topic in a thread that kicked off on the topic of quality, function & the (undeniable) fact that we produce too many things. These are separate qualifiers to "artistic merit".

Fashion being ephemeral is in fact the point here (it should be less ephemeral, independent of what your views on art are).

Re: iPhone Pocket

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Post by jlaternman »

PeaceTed wrote: post #706
simianparrot wrote: post #677

I got excited for a moment, thought it was a new line of iPhone Mini -- you know, the actual handheld iPhones. I still use my 13 Mini. This was the biggest letdown of clicking a link since my last Rickroll in the early 2000's

Not just you with this. Was hoping they brought back the mini instead we got iPod sock version 2.

It does initially look like a stupid and Insanely Facile fashion statement, I agree, but I think the iPod sock v2 could be one of the most practical and cleverly designed products Apple has ever released.

It's clearly intended to be used as bait for phone snatchers. That iPhone dangling loose a foot below your arm in free air is just too tempting… no thief can resist. But, then! You start swinging that motherf*cker, and your iPhone becomes a deadly weapon before any potential thief has time to think.

Third parties are sure to fill the market with the most obvious additions, e.g. metal spikes, studs, mildly poison-laced hooks. I assume there will also be training courses scheduled in Apple Stores around the world to clarify this accessory's purpose — not to mention, to teach proper technique and the ethical considerations of when to stop striking with the iPhone Pocket to avoid manslaughter charges in your region.

This is a move by Apple to subtly promote armed, deceptive martial arts as self-defence. To promote the Bushido spirit as a practical coping mechanism in these stressful times, and to empower its users in everyday situations. I for one think it's Insanely Great, and right on that bold frontier of innovation and Thinking Different that Apple built its reputation on.

Re: iPhone Pocket

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Post by steve1977 »

bborud wrote: post #745

Objects have to earn the right to exist. We make so much stuff. Most of it unnecessary. Stuff that will soon be cluttering your home and then end up in a landfill. This is not a product that deserves to exist. It is not made from quality materials ( Nylon (14%), Polyester (85%), Polyurethane (1%)). It is not innovative. It is questionable whether it solves its primary use case particularly well. What makes this parti…

But… but… it’s a 3D-knitted construction!

Re: iPhone Pocket

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Post by zippergz »

lucideer wrote: post #791

It shouldn't be legal to sell products under the name of a dead person (at the very least in cases where there's a strong chance buyers are given the impression that the person had something to do with production of the product). > a collaboration between ISSEY MIYAKE and Apple Issey Miyake died 3 years ago. He has not participated in this "collaboration".

Can we also not have Levi's? Ford cars? Jack Daniel's? All of their namesakes died a very long time ago.

Re: iPhone Pocket

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Post by steve1977 »

tempestn wrote: post #629
RandomBacon wrote: post #627

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a joke even before looking at the price. "3D-knitted" WTF is that? Isn't all knitting in "3D"? It's a crappy handbag, and it's just for a phone. It looks like they had to use models to advertise it because they couldn't use "everyday people" in "everyday situations" to advertise because it looks like it would be garbage in that scenario. Is Apple expanding to the "luxury" fashion market?

My favorite bit is right before that, > Inspired by the concept of “a piece of cloth”

Apple must be trolling us at this point.

Also I cannot help but read this in the voice of Jony Ive.

Re: iPhone Pocket

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Post by lurking_swe »

yalogin wrote: post #765

Is this a better thing to announce instead of the iPhone Air? I personally think so :) the Air should never have been green lit

here i am replying from my iphone air. My favorite iphone to date, by far. I “downgraded” from a 16 pro. Phone feels like a feather. Fits so nicely into my cross body bag as well!

Battery life has been better than expected.

Re: iPhone Pocket

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Post by lucideer »

__alexs wrote: post #757
bborud wrote: post #745

Objects have to earn the right to exist. We make so much stuff. Most of it unnecessary. Stuff that will soon be cluttering your home and then end up in a landfill. This is not a product that deserves to exist. It is not made from quality materials ( Nylon (14%), Polyester (85%), Polyurethane (1%)). It is not innovative. It is questionable whether it solves its primary use case particularly well. What makes this parti…

Synthetic fabrics are perfectly capable of being high quality. Buzz Rickson aren't making their MA-1s out of junk.

MA-1s are inner lined with a 100% cotton/wool mix. The outer is nylon because synthetic fabrics are generally good for waterproofing (waterproofing is always a trade-off of quality over function) & also just because bombers are generally nylon, but a big part of their construction is using quality non-synthetic fabrics wherever they can to ensure overall quality.

Re: iPhone Pocket

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Post by steve1977 »

bartvk wrote: post #779
tempestn wrote: post #746

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Inspired by the concept of "a piece of cloth", we give you this "3d-knitted" piece of cloth to put your phone in. It's kind of difficult to actually get a phone into and out of, and it looks a bit ridiculous, but don't worry, it's only $160 (unless you want the long strap). Like, if you were doing this as an April Fools joke post, what would you even change?

I get what you’re saying, to you it feels ridiculous. But the thing is, these are professional designers that have put out a product. The product page shows their professional language and it doesn’t work for all people. But I guarantee you that they thought long and hard on this, and have very good reasons for each and every aspect of the product. It is not half assed work. I don’t see a reason to take it as a joke.

Homeopaths think long and hard about homeopathy, but that doesn’t make it a proper science.

Re: iPhone Pocket

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Post by walletdrainer »

freddie_mercury wrote: post #734
walletdrainer wrote: post #530

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> but I really struggle to imagine any pair of pants being worth that much money unless they are lined with gold or something. It depends on how much you earn. I don’t mind spending tens of thousands on Loro Piana cashmere because it’s really nice, but at my income level the price difference between that and Zara is pretty much immaterial. Keep in mind that HN is packed with people with salaries above $1M/yr and entr…

There's some weird online effect where people assume everyone they talk to on the internet makes essentially the same exact amount of money they do. I've noticed this most in a forum for a country I used to live in where foreigners would come in and post "What's an affordable hotel/restaurant/bar/travel experience". Uh, I have no idea what "affordable" means to you!?

Occasionally I read the local subreddit /r/monaco, and see posts like “how much should my weekly food budget be?” with no further information included.

In a place where “normal” genuinely ranges between a couple of euros at McDonald’s and 500+ euros a day in fancy restaurants (easily 1000+ if you drink wine) it always feels like a particularly outrageous question.

There are many places in the world where that’s not a very unreasonable question, but this certainly isn’t it.

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