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A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by ryandrake »

LaurensBER wrote: post #376
rjbwork wrote: post #283

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That's pretty crazy. I've been on reddit since its inception and have never been banned from pics despite having posted on all kinds of unsavory subreddits over the decades.

Try posting in /r/conservative, I replied to a comment there once and received a bunch of bans from other subs shortly afterwards. It doesn't matter what you post, just the association with that sub is apparently enough.

r/Conservative is a very special case.

If you're at the point where you have been vetted and allowed to post on r/Conservative, you've gone way past mere "association." This isn't like some board game forum where you can just create an account and start posting. r/Conservative (probably with good reason) has a long and very active vetting process before you're allowed to post there, and only posts that conform to their ideology stay up. So getting banned for participating is a little more than just "guilt by association."

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by dogleash »

Havoc wrote: post #520

Used to moderator a decent sized sub for a decent stint. Learned a fair bit from it. Eventually decided to step back because it’s a raw deal - all interactions are antagonistic, the torrent of confrontations is essentially endless, it’s not seen or appreciated by users and obviously not paid. So not much of a personal payoff, right? UNLESS you’re the kind of person that thrives on drama, conflict and power trips. Mea…

>this actively filters for people that are radioactively toxic

True. There's a reason "discord mod" is an epithet.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by michaelnovati »

JonoBB wrote: post #312
michaelnovati wrote: post #208

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The author talked to numerous Codesmith staff and their cherry picked information provided for the article. I got no request for comment, no interviews, sitting on a treasure trove of my own documents the guy should look at. So yeah. I would love an actually neutral party to put together a timeline after talking to both sides fairly.

So why the sneaky shitposting and stalking over such a long period of time? Just release the documents and let people decide. I call bullshit on the "treasure trove".

I have a lot of DMs that are there to protect me in making arguments. I don't think it's cool to share them - even anonymized, because people close to Codesmith leadership would be outed and it would impact a lot of people. I have to think about the right way to do that if I did and I might need to have a journalist with credibility go through and write it up.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by WillPostForFood »

jacquesm wrote: post #691
WillPostForFood wrote: post #668

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This is is deeply ignorant historically. The US has cycled through extreme division over and over. There was 100x more civil unrest over Vietnam, civil rights, reconstruction, early labor wars. We've had 4 presidents assassinated, one shot, but survived. There were 2,500 domestic bombings in the 1970s. In 1972 there were 31 plane hijackings - 1 every 12 days. There is a lot of hot talk, a lot of insular bubbles worki…

Of course man, everything is 'just fine'. Outside of the USA: talk of invading Canada, Greenland, indiscriminate execution of people on the high seas, a tariff war that seems to be a series of own goals, destabilization of NATO, the burning of 75 years of goodwill. Inside the USA: military in the cities, half the country is being depicted as 'the enemy' by those in power, an embarrassing cadre of incompetents are in…

Again you are speaking from ignorance, and the inability to differentiate online bubble talk, shit talking by politicians, and reality. The Candian PM was sitting in the White House laughing with the president two days ago, are you seriously saying there is some sort of invasion threat? I don't like that twitter shit talking has bled into people's actual mouths, but I am capable of understanding that it is just talk.

George HW Bush deployed national guard to cities to deal with unrest, Lyndon Johnson deployed the national guard multiple times to deal with unrest, Eisenhower didn't just deploy the National Guard, he sent in the 101st Airborne - the real army. The current deployments are small and peaceful in comparison.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by Loughla »

firesteelrain wrote: post #643
eps wrote: post #590

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Not sure what you mean. They can still do all that even if the profile is set to private. It doesn't hide your posts and comments from Google. They are hoovered up just the same.

It’s slightly harder is what I mean. Takes more effort than clicking on profile and going thru comments

I see you've never accidentally really pissed someone off in a comments section about an inane topic.

I got e-mail blasted on my linked e-mail here for a user called u/Loughla on reddit (who has deleted their account now). It's not me. It was never me. But oooohhhh boy did they upset somebody in an anime subreddit.

In other words, angry people absolutely will go the extra mile just for some feeling of vindication or other nonsense.

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Post by pixl97 »

grafmax wrote: post #753
pixl97 wrote: post #735

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>Choosing moderation should be client-controlled. An idea mostly doomed to failure, the vast majority of people (that are viewing the ads paying for the service) don't want do deal with that bullshit. Moderation is a hard problem. You first have the flood/spam attacks that unless instantly dealt with will bring a service to its knees as there will be hundreds of bad messages for every good message creating an enormou…

That’s an issue of the front-end not the backend. The backend is where an open protocol is needed to break the parasitism of the social media companies. Whether users deal with spam depends on the moderation policies applied by this or that specific front-end. Think of it as a filter. Reddit is a filter on a walled-in social network. What you post there isn’t visible on any other social network and vice versa. But be…

The point is a lot of this moderation starts on the backend nipping problems in the bud before they fill up the database with crap.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by kandel »

michaelnovati wrote: post #292
kjs3 wrote: post #251

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I know of THREE people Well That Settles It. /sarcasm P.S. - quit saying there are some missing pieces in the story until you are going to fill in the rest of the story. You keep saying it, and you are pegging to 11 the bullshit meter of people (like me) who never heard of you or your company (which I won't get near with a 10m pole next time training budget is on the table) or the companies you clearly tried targeted…

> Get a media consultant. Seriously, you suck at this Well the author thinks I'm a mastermind marketer ... maybe I'm not and I'm just a person frustrated with a company that I pointed out problems to for years, they did nothing about them, and those same problems caused their implosion.

Im just an anonymous person on the internet but even I can see that this can really hurt your reputation. That start of the article painting you by using a random game you had with Zuckerberg is very low. I think the previous commentor's suggestion to talk to a professional has merit.

They are effectively accusing you of destroying a multi-million company through libel... If this happened in court you'd be getting a lawyer, no? Maybe i'm being dramatic and the best way to go through this is just to ignore it and let it calm out but it's probably not a bad idea to talk to someone with a cool head and experience.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by hpdigidrifter »

ahoka wrote: post #502
vintermann wrote: post #466

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Seniority. Older mods can remove younger mods.

So just try to buy or steal the most senior mod's account and then you have the mod for yourself? Ouch.

Strangely not mentioned much in here is how these accounts are up for sale.

It's definitely never mentioned on reddit because simply saying one of the websites in an offhand comment gets you a sitewide ban and your comment deleted.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by debtta »

testdelacc1 wrote: post #724
debtta wrote: post #536

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I've often posted on the internet at 4am local time before. How did you establish the posters were Russian or Iranian, other than by time zone? (4am London is working hours for around half the world population.) Not denying that there are people in these countries who want to cause trouble on the internet. But there are many such people in all countries...

Fair question. The answer is that they didn’t bother hiding it. They literally posted in a whole bunch of Iranian subReddits and only Iranian subReddits. On this thread they were claiming they were British. Literally the first post of that kind, completely different to everything they had posted previously. The clincher was that they deleted their account as soon as I pointed they were Iranian. I’m going to guess the…

Obviously this is not what the posting history of a state-sponsored disinformation actor looks like.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by Montymio »

rainytruck wrote: post #641

Codesmith and other affected should probably sue Michael for defamation, harassment and other charges, and try to get like $500 million in reparations.

and btw - for all of Michael’s attempts to say “we’re not competitors!”, i think its pretty damn clear they are.

Absolutely a competitor:

https://techcrunch.com/2021/04/08/software-engineer-training...

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